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>Sure they do, the iPhone 12 is still widely available and it’s at least twice as fast as an A54. The iPhone 12 doesn't cost 300 Euros, it's 500 Euros and only

>Sure they do, the iPhone 12 is still widely available and it’s at least twice as fast as an A54. The iPhone 12 doesn't cost 300 Euros, it's 500 Euros and only comes with a dinky 64GB RAM base vs 128GB on the cheaper Samsung.

acdha 3y ago
Okay, let’s assume the prices I got on Amazon were scammers. Here’s your “€300” A54 at €430: https://www.worten.pt/produtos/smartphone-samsung-galaxy-a54-5g-6-4-8-gb-128-gb-graphite-7731151 https://www.worten.pt/produtos/smartphone-samsung-galaxy-a54... Here’s the iPhone 12 at €550: https://www.worten.pt/produtos/iphone-12-apple-6-1-64-gb-preto-7256276 https://www.worten.pt/produtos/iphone-12-apple-6-1-64-gb-pre... Now, maybe that extra hundred euros is really critical to you but on the other hand the iPhone will have a service life years longer (it’s over twice as fast), but also neither of these is in a price range where you’re moving into prestige territory. This is like arguing Toyota vs. VW in an alternate universe where Mercedes and Bentley don’t exist. Phones are an impressively flat market in that regard: Tim Cook and Sundar Pichai have the same phones as millions of people who earn many orders of magnitude less than either of them.
- FirmwareBurner 3y ago
  UI can't control the fact that the Samsung is so expensive in Portugal. It's 100 Euros cheaper where I live. >neither of these is in a price range where you’re moving into prestige territory. It's not about prestige territory, but a stricker price difference of 200 Euros can sway purchase decisions in Europe when a wage is ~2000 Euros.
  - acdha 3y ago
    €2000 is less than half of the average income for Albania and the poorest one in the EU is Bulgaria at 5 times that much.
    - FirmwareBurner 3y ago
      Monthly...not yearly. I don't know how or where you got those numbers but at this point I'd rather end the conversation here.
      - acdha 3y ago
        Here’s the source: https://data.worldbank.org/indicator/NY.ADJ.NNTY.PC.CD?locations=EU https://data.worldbank.org/indicator/NY.ADJ.NNTY.PC.CD?locat... I assumed you meant yearly because the idea that someone would be able to afford a €400 phone but not a €500 phone just doesn’t make sense when you’re talking about monthly income. Someone making €2k monthly is looking at less 1% of their annual income difference for a device they’ll buy once or twice per decade. It’s a noticeable amount of money, sure, but I’d be quite surprised if that was the area they’d feel a priority to economize.

acdha 3y ago

Okay, let’s assume the prices I got on Amazon were scammers. Here’s your “€300” A54 at €430: https://www.worten.pt/produtos/smartphone-samsung-galaxy-a54-5g-6-4-8-gb-128-gb-graphite-7731151 https://www.worten.pt/produtos/smartphone-samsung-galaxy-a54... Here’s the iPhone 12 at €550: https://www.worten.pt/produtos/iphone-12-apple-6-1-64-gb-preto-7256276 https://www.worten.pt/produtos/iphone-12-apple-6-1-64-gb-pre... Now, maybe that extra hundred euros is really critical to you but on the other hand the iPhone will have a service life years longer (it’s over twice as fast), but also neither of these is in a price range where you’re moving into prestige territory. This is like arguing Toyota vs. VW in an alternate universe where Mercedes and Bentley don’t exist. Phones are an impressively flat market in that regard: Tim Cook and Sundar Pichai have the same phones as millions of people who earn many orders of magnitude less than either of them.

FirmwareBurner 3y ago
UI can't control the fact that the Samsung is so expensive in Portugal. It's 100 Euros cheaper where I live. >neither of these is in a price range where you’re moving into prestige territory. It's not about prestige territory, but a stricker price difference of 200 Euros can sway purchase decisions in Europe when a wage is ~2000 Euros.
- acdha 3y ago
  €2000 is less than half of the average income for Albania and the poorest one in the EU is Bulgaria at 5 times that much.
  - FirmwareBurner 3y ago
    Monthly...not yearly. I don't know how or where you got those numbers but at this point I'd rather end the conversation here.
    - acdha 3y ago
      Here’s the source: https://data.worldbank.org/indicator/NY.ADJ.NNTY.PC.CD?locations=EU https://data.worldbank.org/indicator/NY.ADJ.NNTY.PC.CD?locat... I assumed you meant yearly because the idea that someone would be able to afford a €400 phone but not a €500 phone just doesn’t make sense when you’re talking about monthly income. Someone making €2k monthly is looking at less 1% of their annual income difference for a device they’ll buy once or twice per decade. It’s a noticeable amount of money, sure, but I’d be quite surprised if that was the area they’d feel a priority to economize.