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I would run wires too, but you're just shifting the problem. Now someone can cut the power, rip the camera out of its socket, follow the wires to the hard drive

I would run wires too, but you're just shifting the problem. Now someone can cut the power, rip the camera out of its socket, follow the wires to the hard drives, and take them with the rest of their loot.

micromacrofoot 3y ago
Ideally you'd have hardwired cameras with a battery backup that store to local drives with a cloud backup. This requires significantly more upfront and ongoing costs... and most criminals aren't sophisticated enough to cut power or jam wifi. Lots of times they won't even wear masks. The average property crime is still an opportunistic smash and grab. Stick up wifi cameras are an affordable "good enough" for most cases.
hwbehrens 3y ago
The weak point is always the network connection. My cameras are PoE backed with a UPS, and the footage is replicated locally and to the cloud, but that replication still requires a network connection (which is also on battery). So, if someone jammed the cell network, cut my wired uplink, and then removed every drive they found, they can successfully prevent me from seeing them. I'll still know that something is happening, I guess? Plus they can always just wear masks. The real point here is, even if you capture a super-clear 1080p picture of the criminal(s) face, the police mostly won't care. It's just a little security theater that you put on for yourself, and sometimes your insurance company.
- pixl97 3y ago
  > if you capture a super-clear 1080p picture of the criminal( That's why you figure out who they are and publish it on social media/other sources.
- cooper_ganglia 3y ago
  PimEyes.com is reverse image search using facial recognition. There’s a chance you could identify them using a service like this. I’ve found the names of random people in the backgrounds of my photos this way. It’s a bit hit-or-miss, but when it works, it’s like magic!
wepple 3y ago
I don’t know that they’d have the skill or patience for this. If you’re running cables to other rooms, they’re not going to start tracing wires everywhere (to potentially find the wire connected to a router anyhow)
- chatmasta 3y ago
  Why bother with that if you can just cut the mains power to the house...
contravariant 3y ago
Why were we trying to get them on camera again? Just sound the alarm already!

micromacrofoot 3y ago

Ideally you'd have hardwired cameras with a battery backup that store to local drives with a cloud backup. This requires significantly more upfront and ongoing costs... and most criminals aren't sophisticated enough to cut power or jam wifi. Lots of times they won't even wear masks. The average property crime is still an opportunistic smash and grab. Stick up wifi cameras are an affordable "good enough" for most cases.

hwbehrens 3y ago

The weak point is always the network connection. My cameras are PoE backed with a UPS, and the footage is replicated locally and to the cloud, but that replication still requires a network connection (which is also on battery). So, if someone jammed the cell network, cut my wired uplink, and then removed every drive they found, they can successfully prevent me from seeing them. I'll still know that something is happening, I guess? Plus they can always just wear masks. The real point here is, even if you capture a super-clear 1080p picture of the criminal(s) face, the police mostly won't care. It's just a little security theater that you put on for yourself, and sometimes your insurance company.

pixl97 3y ago
> if you capture a super-clear 1080p picture of the criminal( That's why you figure out who they are and publish it on social media/other sources.
cooper_ganglia 3y ago
PimEyes.com is reverse image search using facial recognition. There’s a chance you could identify them using a service like this. I’ve found the names of random people in the backgrounds of my photos this way. It’s a bit hit-or-miss, but when it works, it’s like magic!

wepple 3y ago

I don’t know that they’d have the skill or patience for this. If you’re running cables to other rooms, they’re not going to start tracing wires everywhere (to potentially find the wire connected to a router anyhow)

chatmasta 3y ago
Why bother with that if you can just cut the mains power to the house...

contravariant 3y ago

Why were we trying to get them on camera again? Just sound the alarm already!