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Recovery rates from theft are abysmal and expected return likely lower than value of the cameras. Arrest rates are single digit at best. Burglary perps are pr

Recovery rates from theft are abysmal and expected return likely lower than value of the cameras. Arrest rates are single digit at best. Burglary perps are primarily worried about a 9mm penetration to their skull by a $100 hi-point.

itishappy 3y ago
I believe the goal is deterrence rather than forensics. Hopefully thieves will see your fancy security system and choose a different house.
- lazide 3y ago
  The issue is when they see the sign, and that means they know that RF jammer tool they bought will work. If you’re going to put up a security system sign, make sure it’s for a system that works differently than the one you actually have.
  - sky_rw 3y ago
    It's also worth noting that you can buy signs and stickers on ebay for way less than the actual system, and you arguably get most of the benefit from the visual indicators.
- creer 3y ago
  You are not deterring by having good video after the act! Your video camera recording or not is not relevant to deterrence.
  - itishappy 3y ago
    An excellent observation! If deterrence is the goal (and I'm suggesting it often is) then a fake camera is often just as good, but cheaper!
- n_plus_1_acc 3y ago
  "They have an expensive camera so they have money"
cooper_ganglia 3y ago
Actually true. “I don’t have security cameras so I can catch burglars, I have security cameras so I can watch back the recording of me blowing them away!”
lowbloodsugar 3y ago
So, NRA sticker?
- dmoy 3y ago
  Advertising you have guns is a good way to get your house/car/etc broken in to for the explicit purpose of stealing guns.
  - crotchfire 3y ago
    How are you going to find the house that has weapons worth stealing but doesn't have a safe? Such houses are extremely rare. I'm going to assume you have never attempted this silly scheme for obtaining free guns. Most police cars have a shotgun under the front seat; have you tried looting those? I don't recommend it. This has to be the most ridiculously out-of-touch comment I've ever seen on HN.
    - dmoy 3y ago
      And yet, over 250k guns are stolen every year (in the US), mostly from houses and cars. There's a variety of things going on here: 1. The bar for "gun worth stealing" is often "any gun". Just in the same way that the bar for stealing a car is "any car". Thieves aren't exactly targeting Kia and Hyundai because of their great resale or scrap value. 2. The vast majority of houses with guns aren't keeping them locked up in safes.
      - crotchfire 3y ago
        Mostly from cars, because paying Billy to tell you where his truck will be parked tomorrow night is how you buy a gun from Billy without a background check. Not saying this is right; just saying this isn't "theft" but rather a different law being broken. 2. The vast majority of houses with guns aren't keeping them locked up in safes. This is false. Source or gtfo.
        dmoy 3y ago

itishappy 3y ago

I believe the goal is deterrence rather than forensics. Hopefully thieves will see your fancy security system and choose a different house.

lazide 3y ago
The issue is when they see the sign, and that means they know that RF jammer tool they bought will work. If you’re going to put up a security system sign, make sure it’s for a system that works differently than the one you actually have.
- sky_rw 3y ago
  It's also worth noting that you can buy signs and stickers on ebay for way less than the actual system, and you arguably get most of the benefit from the visual indicators.
creer 3y ago
You are not deterring by having good video after the act! Your video camera recording or not is not relevant to deterrence.
- itishappy 3y ago
  An excellent observation! If deterrence is the goal (and I'm suggesting it often is) then a fake camera is often just as good, but cheaper!
n_plus_1_acc 3y ago
"They have an expensive camera so they have money"

cooper_ganglia 3y ago

Actually true. “I don’t have security cameras so I can catch burglars, I have security cameras so I can watch back the recording of me blowing them away!”

lowbloodsugar 3y ago

So, NRA sticker?

dmoy 3y ago
Advertising you have guns is a good way to get your house/car/etc broken in to for the explicit purpose of stealing guns.
- crotchfire 3y ago
  How are you going to find the house that has weapons worth stealing but doesn't have a safe? Such houses are extremely rare. I'm going to assume you have never attempted this silly scheme for obtaining free guns. Most police cars have a shotgun under the front seat; have you tried looting those? I don't recommend it. This has to be the most ridiculously out-of-touch comment I've ever seen on HN.
  - dmoy 3y ago
    And yet, over 250k guns are stolen every year (in the US), mostly from houses and cars. There's a variety of things going on here: 1. The bar for "gun worth stealing" is often "any gun". Just in the same way that the bar for stealing a car is "any car". Thieves aren't exactly targeting Kia and Hyundai because of their great resale or scrap value. 2. The vast majority of houses with guns aren't keeping them locked up in safes.
    - crotchfire 3y ago
      Mostly from cars, because paying Billy to tell you where his truck will be parked tomorrow night is how you buy a gun from Billy without a background check. Not saying this is right; just saying this isn't "theft" but rather a different law being broken. 2. The vast majority of houses with guns aren't keeping them locked up in safes. This is false. Source or gtfo.
      - dmoy 3y ago