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Yes, but that doesn't make them "status phones for middle class people". The latest iPhone 15 can be had for 30 EUR/month even in Sweden (Sweden is very expensi
by troupo 3y ago
Yes, but that doesn't make them "status phones for middle class people". The latest iPhone 15 can be had for 30 EUR/month even in Sweden (Sweden is very expensive) [1]. That's a single lunch for two.
[1] https://www.tre.se/handla/mobiltelefoner/apple/iphone-15 https://www.tre.se/handla/mobiltelefoner/apple/iphone-15
- FirmwareBurner 3y agoSweden also has some of the highest salaries in Europe/the world, that's why they're not a status symbol, because even a pizza delivery boy can afford an iPhone 15 Pro Max. But they very much are a status symbol in less developed countries with lower wages: Eastern Europe, Latin America, etc. Lower and middle class people there will save for over a year just to get the latest iPhone, which is why there's a huge market there for clones.
- troupo 3y agoThe original claim was about "the EU" as a whole. Now it's "less developed countries with lowest wages". Even in Eastern Europe it's much less of a status symbol than let's say 10 years ago: installment plans are much more affordable to a larger part of the population. Source: am from Eastern Europe (though I live in Sweden now). > Lower and middle class people there will save for over a year just to get the latest iPhone Yup, because the poor unwashed masses don't have discounts, instalment plans or phones included with subscriptions. Oh wait, they do.
- FirmwareBurner 3y agoAffordable doesn't mean financially sound. Going in debt to buy a phone you can't afford outright in cash, means you're too poor to afford it, that's why is a status symbol.
- troupo 3y ago> Affordable doesn't mean financially sound. I can't keep up with goalposts moving speed in this conversation