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There are a lot of cases where you pass a line without indicating though. There are also a lot of cases where a line ease off to the side in a turn-off that wou

• WesolyKubeczek 3y ago
  Wait wait. You are passing cyclists. Blinking serves two purposes: you are letting them know that you have noticed them (so they know you're not just going to plow right through them) and you are letting them know you are going to pass them (so they don't do stupid shit like decide to turn left at exactly this moment). If a car behind me, in the same lane, was passing me without blinking, I would highly suspect a drunk or overtired driver.
  • cnity 3y ago
    My comment was a bit misleading, sorry. I do indicate when passing cyclists. I read your comment as suggesting that the assumption lane assist makes is OK because one should always indicate when crossing a lane marking (which is not always the case).
  • soco 3y ago
    I'm not sure how can a cyclist see your blinker - you are behind them when starting to overtake and looking back is not something cyclists do much (or more than once)...
    • tullianus 3y ago
      Helmet-mounted rearview mirror. Looks like the little mirror they use at the dentist's office.
    • WesolyKubeczek 3y ago
      I have no problems noticing lights and blinkers in my peripheral vision, or when they cast light onto objects ahead of me.
• itishappy 3y ago
  > There are a lot of cases where you pass a line without indicating though. You are legally required to in the US. Edit: I'm not entirely confident in this. You are legally required to signal a turn. Lane changes may not meet the definition of a turn. In NYS where I live lane changes are indeed included.
  • cnity 3y ago
    I'm in the UK, to be fair, but it is common here when doing roadworks on a motorway to close one side of the motorway and set up cones which guide traffic onto the other side to share the "wrong" side of the motorway lanes (divided by cones). When entering the roadworks area and switch to the other side, this necessarily means crossing boundaries, but indicating at this stage would be weird and nobody does it. A relation of mine was renting a car with lane assist and it nearly drove him into the cones by way of refusal to cross the boundary (until it conceded control to the driver).
    • WesolyKubeczek 3y ago
      Roadworks sort of temporarily change the layout of your lane. So as long as you keep inside whatever goes for the current lane, you don't need to indicate. But otherwise you do, since you temporarily go out of your lane. It's not about the line itself, it's signalling the maneuver and crossing the lane's boundary that does it. Sure, the lane centering systems don't know that cones change how the lane goes. They also don't know much about temporary lanes painted in yellow (in my country road works do this) and that they override the usual white lanes. Needless to say, one needs to increase their attention when driving through such things anyway, so I turn LTA and adaptive cruise control off and slow down. A wild road worker may suddenly appear in my way at any moment.
• yardie 3y ago
  > There are a lot of cases where you pass a line without indicating though. I'm curious to know what those circumstances are. I'm just a dumb American driver but even I was taught you always use your indicator when changing lanes: turning, passing, merging, parallel parking. I don't know where at any point you are not required to use the indicator.
  • cnity 3y ago
    Mainly during roadworks where temporary signage and barriers are put in place that override road markings. Maybe it's different in the UK (where I'm from) but it's pretty commonplace here, and would be really weird to indicate according to road markings when temporary cones are up.