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Three thoughts: 1. It's a brilliant idea that came at the right time. It feels like people are finally losing patience with flaky software, see developer senti

Three thoughts: 1. It's a brilliant idea that came at the right time. It feels like people are finally losing patience with flaky software, see developer sentiment on: fuzzers, static typing, memory safety, standardized protocols, containers, etc. 2. It's meant to be niche. $2 per hour per CPU (or $7000 per year per CPU if reserved), no free tier for hobby or FOSS, and the only way to try/buy is to contact them. Ouch. It's a valid business model, I'm just sad it's not going for maximum positive impact. 3. Kudos for the high quality writing and documentation, and I absolutely love that the docs include things like (emphasis in original): > If a bug is found in production, or by your customers, you should demand an explanation from us. That's exactly how you buy developer goodwill. Reminds me of Mullvad, who I still recommend to people even after they dropped the ball on me.

wwilson 3y ago
Thanks for your kind words! As I mention in this comment (https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=39358526 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=39358526) we are planning to have pricing suitable for small teams, and perhaps even a free tier for FOSS, in the future. Disclosure: Antithesis co-founder.
- eatonphil 3y ago
  There a few FOSS projects I'd love to set this up for if you ever get to the free tier. :)
jerf 3y ago
"It's meant to be niche. $2 per hour per CPU (or $7000 per year per CPU if reserved), no free tier for hobby or FOSS, and the only way to try/buy is to contact them. Ouch. It's a valid business model, I'm just sad it's not going for maximum positive impact." This is the sort of thing that, if it takes off, will start affecting the entire software world. Hardware will start adding features to support it. In 30 years this may simply be how computing works. But the pioneers need to recover the costs of the arrows they got stuck with before it can really spread out. Don't look at this an event, but as the beginning of a process.
whatshisface 3y ago
$2 per hour per CPU could be expensive or inexpensive, depending on how long it takes to fuzz your program. I wonder how that multiplies out in real use cases?
maronato 3y ago
I think their target audience is teams who already have mature software and comprehensive tests. From the docs, the kinds of bugs their platform is designed to find are the wild “unreproducible” kind that only happens rarely in production. Most teams have much bigger problems and obvious bugs to fix. Heck, most software in production today barely has unit tests.

wwilson 3y ago

Thanks for your kind words! As I mention in this comment (https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=39358526 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=39358526) we are planning to have pricing suitable for small teams, and perhaps even a free tier for FOSS, in the future. Disclosure: Antithesis co-founder.

eatonphil 3y ago
There a few FOSS projects I'd love to set this up for if you ever get to the free tier. :)

jerf 3y ago

"It's meant to be niche. $2 per hour per CPU (or $7000 per year per CPU if reserved), no free tier for hobby or FOSS, and the only way to try/buy is to contact them. Ouch. It's a valid business model, I'm just sad it's not going for maximum positive impact." This is the sort of thing that, if it takes off, will start affecting the entire software world. Hardware will start adding features to support it. In 30 years this may simply be how computing works. But the pioneers need to recover the costs of the arrows they got stuck with before it can really spread out. Don't look at this an event, but as the beginning of a process.

whatshisface 3y ago

$2 per hour per CPU could be expensive or inexpensive, depending on how long it takes to fuzz your program. I wonder how that multiplies out in real use cases?

maronato 3y ago

I think their target audience is teams who already have mature software and comprehensive tests. From the docs, the kinds of bugs their platform is designed to find are the wild “unreproducible” kind that only happens rarely in production. Most teams have much bigger problems and obvious bugs to fix. Heck, most software in production today barely has unit tests.