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Can someone chime in to explain more specifically the realistic details of extreme climate we should expect within 5 to 10 years?

by boppo1 3y ago

lm28469 3y ago
Based on past events that we assume were caused by similar events: > Modelled 21st century warming under the "intermediate" global warming scenario (top). The potential collapse of the subpolar gyre in this scenario (middle). The collapse of the entire Atlantic Meriditional Overturning Circulation (bottom). https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/c/cd/Sgubin2017_spg_amoc_collapse.jpg https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/c/cd/Sgubin20... The truth is whatever happens will fuck us up big time, we're way too dependant on existing infrastructures/agricultures/city hubs/&c. none of it would be moveable in such a short period. Allies were fighting on airports tarmacs for masks during covid, imagine what would happen in this scenarios
- trilbyglens 3y ago
  I really wonder what the best mitigation strategy in this time line is going to be for individuals. My own is to have an EU passport and an American passport. It's hard to tell which of these regions will fare better, but having a hedge strategy seems to be the way. The US has more climate zones, but Europe is far more socially functional and might do better in terms of collective action and survival. Not to mention car dependency in the US might prove to be a death blow to many types of sustainable living models. Also, Americans are going to fall to pieces when even the smallest amount of convenience is ripped away from them.
silverquiet 3y ago
My suspicion is that no one really knows; telling the future is always difficult. The consequences of adding carbon to the atmosphere will continue to accumulate as more carbon is added (and the really scary part is when feedback loops kick in that then add more carbon on their own). In 5 years, it will be a bit worse, and then in 10, a bit more. I think about what it must feel like to be a teenager today to be staring down decades of this.
bobbylarrybobby 3y ago
My impression is more of the same: stronger storms, weirder weather, extremer extremes. If the Atlantic Ocean current does collapse (probably won't happen in the next ten years, but there's a good chance it does by the end of the century) then northern latitudes on the Atlantic will freeze and farming may well become infeasible there.
downvotetruth 3y ago
https://www.preventionweb.net/news/58-human-infectious-diseases-can-be-worsened-climate-change-we-scoured-77000-studies-map https://www.preventionweb.net/news/58-human-infectious-disea...

Can someone chime in to explain more specifically the realistic details of extreme climate we should expect within 5 to 10 years?

by boppo1 3y ago

Can someone chime in to explain more specifically the realistic details of extreme climate we should expect within 5 to 10 years?

lm28469 3y ago

Based on past events that we assume were caused by similar events: > Modelled 21st century warming under the "intermediate" global warming scenario (top). The potential collapse of the subpolar gyre in this scenario (middle). The collapse of the entire Atlantic Meriditional Overturning Circulation (bottom). https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/c/cd/Sgubin2017_spg_amoc_collapse.jpg https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/c/cd/Sgubin20... The truth is whatever happens will fuck us up big time, we're way too dependant on existing infrastructures/agricultures/city hubs/&c. none of it would be moveable in such a short period. Allies were fighting on airports tarmacs for masks during covid, imagine what would happen in this scenarios

trilbyglens 3y ago
I really wonder what the best mitigation strategy in this time line is going to be for individuals. My own is to have an EU passport and an American passport. It's hard to tell which of these regions will fare better, but having a hedge strategy seems to be the way. The US has more climate zones, but Europe is far more socially functional and might do better in terms of collective action and survival. Not to mention car dependency in the US might prove to be a death blow to many types of sustainable living models. Also, Americans are going to fall to pieces when even the smallest amount of convenience is ripped away from them.

silverquiet 3y ago

My suspicion is that no one really knows; telling the future is always difficult. The consequences of adding carbon to the atmosphere will continue to accumulate as more carbon is added (and the really scary part is when feedback loops kick in that then add more carbon on their own). In 5 years, it will be a bit worse, and then in 10, a bit more. I think about what it must feel like to be a teenager today to be staring down decades of this.

bobbylarrybobby 3y ago

My impression is more of the same: stronger storms, weirder weather, extremer extremes. If the Atlantic Ocean current does collapse (probably won't happen in the next ten years, but there's a good chance it does by the end of the century) then northern latitudes on the Atlantic will freeze and farming may well become infeasible there.

downvotetruth 3y ago

https://www.preventionweb.net/news/58-human-infectious-diseases-can-be-worsened-climate-change-we-scoured-77000-studies-map https://www.preventionweb.net/news/58-human-infectious-disea...