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The most important question is how common this is and how severe the average case is. If it only affects one car in 20 then the main effect will be bad PR for T

The most important question is how common this is and how severe the average case is. If it only affects one car in 20 then the main effect will be bad PR for Tesla rather than a noticeable diminishment of owner enjoyment. I suspect its fairly rare tbh, it being common would likely have been raised years ago and a fix (including coating) implemented.

mynameisvlad 3y ago
It was pretty openly touted as coat-less stainless steel from the announcement. Their hubris would have never allowed them to add a clear coat. They still haven’t added rain sensors or proper blind spot monitors because of hubris, and those have been common complaints for years. What makes you believe this would be different?
- concordDance 3y ago
  Well I guess we'll find out soon enough as we see them on the road and can have a look ourselves. I'd be happy to take a bet on this if we can nail down the specifics.
  - mynameisvlad 3y ago
    What even is this answer? People are complaining about it right now. The owner’s manual explicitly states it’s a potential issue. By all accounts this is a known and actively occurring problem. What, exactly, is there to “find out soon enough”?
    - concordDance 3y ago
      As I said above, frequency. The owner's manual for every car says this is a potential issue. E.g. https://www.fordservicecontent.com/Ford_Content/vdirsnet/OwnerManual/Home/Content?variantid=9043&languageCode=en&countryCode=USA&Uid=G2195905&ProcUid=G2194034&userMarket=CAN&div=f&vFilteringEnabled=False&buildtype=web https://www.fordservicecontent.com/Ford_Content/vdirsnet/Own... And yet most cars you see on the road look okay. Unless this is substantially more common than others cars this could be much ado about nothing.
rurp 3y ago
Per TFA, the official maintenance documentation says "To prevent damage to the exterior, immediately remove corrosive substances (such as grease, oil, bird droppings, tree resin, dead insects, tar spots, road salt, industrial fallout, etc.)." which inidcates that it is a known concern. Essentially nobody who uses CT as an actual vehicle is going immediately remove every little substance that gets on it. Assuming that Tesla would never let a common issue make it into production seems counter to basically the entire history of the company.
- cma 3y ago
  The company that went for cheaper non-automotive touchscreens and then when they started failing under warranty made everyone's car run the air-conditioner to prevent them from delaminating at huge energy cost to the consumers.
- seattle_spring 3y ago
  This is a line that is not only included on all other (non-stainless-steel) Tesla vehicles, but all other brands of vehicles too. I'm no Cybertruck fan, but people repeating this particular line like it's "proof they knew!!" is just plain incorrect.
- concordDance 3y ago
  From what I can see that's more or less standard for cars. E.g. Ford F150's user manual says: "Immediately remove fuel spillages, additive residuals, bird droppings, insect deposits and road tar." https://www.fordservicecontent.com/Ford_Content/vdirsnet/OwnerManual/Home/Content?variantid=9043&languageCode=en&countryCode=USA&Uid=G2195905&ProcUid=G2194034&userMarket=CAN&div=f&vFilteringEnabled=False&buildtype=web https://www.fordservicecontent.com/Ford_Content/vdirsnet/Own...
bigbillheck 3y ago
> If it only affects one car in 20 If 5% of any given Toyota model started rusting like that it'd be a really big deal.

mynameisvlad 3y ago

It was pretty openly touted as coat-less stainless steel from the announcement. Their hubris would have never allowed them to add a clear coat. They still haven’t added rain sensors or proper blind spot monitors because of hubris, and those have been common complaints for years. What makes you believe this would be different?

concordDance 3y ago
Well I guess we'll find out soon enough as we see them on the road and can have a look ourselves. I'd be happy to take a bet on this if we can nail down the specifics.
- mynameisvlad 3y ago
  What even is this answer? People are complaining about it right now. The owner’s manual explicitly states it’s a potential issue. By all accounts this is a known and actively occurring problem. What, exactly, is there to “find out soon enough”?
  - concordDance 3y ago
    As I said above, frequency. The owner's manual for every car says this is a potential issue. E.g. https://www.fordservicecontent.com/Ford_Content/vdirsnet/OwnerManual/Home/Content?variantid=9043&languageCode=en&countryCode=USA&Uid=G2195905&ProcUid=G2194034&userMarket=CAN&div=f&vFilteringEnabled=False&buildtype=web https://www.fordservicecontent.com/Ford_Content/vdirsnet/Own... And yet most cars you see on the road look okay. Unless this is substantially more common than others cars this could be much ado about nothing.

rurp 3y ago

Per TFA, the official maintenance documentation says "To prevent damage to the exterior, immediately remove corrosive substances (such as grease, oil, bird droppings, tree resin, dead insects, tar spots, road salt, industrial fallout, etc.)." which inidcates that it is a known concern. Essentially nobody who uses CT as an actual vehicle is going immediately remove every little substance that gets on it. Assuming that Tesla would never let a common issue make it into production seems counter to basically the entire history of the company.

cma 3y ago
The company that went for cheaper non-automotive touchscreens and then when they started failing under warranty made everyone's car run the air-conditioner to prevent them from delaminating at huge energy cost to the consumers.
seattle_spring 3y ago
This is a line that is not only included on all other (non-stainless-steel) Tesla vehicles, but all other brands of vehicles too. I'm no Cybertruck fan, but people repeating this particular line like it's "proof they knew!!" is just plain incorrect.
concordDance 3y ago
From what I can see that's more or less standard for cars. E.g. Ford F150's user manual says: "Immediately remove fuel spillages, additive residuals, bird droppings, insect deposits and road tar." https://www.fordservicecontent.com/Ford_Content/vdirsnet/OwnerManual/Home/Content?variantid=9043&languageCode=en&countryCode=USA&Uid=G2195905&ProcUid=G2194034&userMarket=CAN&div=f&vFilteringEnabled=False&buildtype=web https://www.fordservicecontent.com/Ford_Content/vdirsnet/Own...

bigbillheck 3y ago

> If it only affects one car in 20 If 5% of any given Toyota model started rusting like that it'd be a really big deal.