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Somehow the author doesnt recognize that emulation is a legitimate answer to this question. Yes he was able to open the document, by using the original software

by dzdt 3y ago

Somehow the author doesnt recognize that emulation is a legitimate answer to this question. Yes he was able to open the document, by using the original software on a highly accurate emulation of the original system. Everything beyond that point is a different question: can we get it inside of a modern word processor.

jgrahamc 3y ago
Sort of. What I wanted was to be able to get a PDF version of it. I was hoping that a modern word processor would read the file format, and LibreOffice did. But it's also true that using emulation I was able to get a PDF (albeit one that has different fonts).
- nextaccountic 3y ago
  > it's also true that using emulation I was able to get a PDF (albeit one that has different fonts). Maybe you needed to have the right fonts installed in your emulated mac? Another comment in this thread pointed out this
londons_explore 3y ago
Emulation is starting to get gaps too... for example, running Windows 95 in an emulator on a modern machine is getting harder and harder (emulators like vmware and virtualbox don't emulate the CPU speed accurately, which causes the system not to boot, and they also don't emulate various paging behaviours of old intel CPU's accurately which causes windows applications to crash within a few seconds of starting). There are binary patches to windows 95 to fix these issues, but as the system gets older it's less likely people will put effort into binary patching it for compatibility with modern systems. And if it were more obscure, you'd be SOL.
- fourfour3 3y ago
  Whole system emulation like 86box does a much better job of emulating older hardware and OSes - I use it quite a bit for DOS/Win3.11/Win9x era stuff.
- thawkth 3y ago
  PCem is far, far better for Win95 emulation - it can handle a P2 233 and a Voodoo3 fairly accurately - and tons and tons of hardware on top of that. It’s amazing. I keep a 95 / 98 and some other vintage machines around as a hobby, but being able to play Unreal in an emulator with 3D acceleration blows my mind
  - fourfour3 3y ago
    How have you found the Voodoo 3 emulation? I have found it a bit ropey in 86box/PCem - but I find voodoo 1 or 2 works really well.
- Narishma 3y ago
  Those are virtual machines, not emulators. If you use a proper emulator like PCem or 86box, Windows 95 works fine.
- thaumasiotes 3y ago
  > running Windows 95 in an emulator on a modern machine is getting harder and harder (emulators like vmware and virtualbox don't emulate the CPU speed accurately, which causes the system not to boot, and they also don't emulate various paging behaviours of old intel CPU's accurately which causes windows applications to crash within a few seconds of starting) I thought the normal way to run Windows 95 was in dosbox?

by dzdt 3y ago

jgrahamc 3y ago

Sort of. What I wanted was to be able to get a PDF version of it. I was hoping that a modern word processor would read the file format, and LibreOffice did. But it's also true that using emulation I was able to get a PDF (albeit one that has different fonts).

nextaccountic 3y ago
> it's also true that using emulation I was able to get a PDF (albeit one that has different fonts). Maybe you needed to have the right fonts installed in your emulated mac? Another comment in this thread pointed out this

londons_explore 3y ago

Emulation is starting to get gaps too... for example, running Windows 95 in an emulator on a modern machine is getting harder and harder (emulators like vmware and virtualbox don't emulate the CPU speed accurately, which causes the system not to boot, and they also don't emulate various paging behaviours of old intel CPU's accurately which causes windows applications to crash within a few seconds of starting). There are binary patches to windows 95 to fix these issues, but as the system gets older it's less likely people will put effort into binary patching it for compatibility with modern systems. And if it were more obscure, you'd be SOL.

fourfour3 3y ago
Whole system emulation like 86box does a much better job of emulating older hardware and OSes - I use it quite a bit for DOS/Win3.11/Win9x era stuff.
thawkth 3y ago
PCem is far, far better for Win95 emulation - it can handle a P2 233 and a Voodoo3 fairly accurately - and tons and tons of hardware on top of that. It’s amazing. I keep a 95 / 98 and some other vintage machines around as a hobby, but being able to play Unreal in an emulator with 3D acceleration blows my mind
- fourfour3 3y ago
  How have you found the Voodoo 3 emulation? I have found it a bit ropey in 86box/PCem - but I find voodoo 1 or 2 works really well.
Narishma 3y ago
Those are virtual machines, not emulators. If you use a proper emulator like PCem or 86box, Windows 95 works fine.
thaumasiotes 3y ago
> running Windows 95 in an emulator on a modern machine is getting harder and harder (emulators like vmware and virtualbox don't emulate the CPU speed accurately, which causes the system not to boot, and they also don't emulate various paging behaviours of old intel CPU's accurately which causes windows applications to crash within a few seconds of starting) I thought the normal way to run Windows 95 was in dosbox?