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There is little doubt that the level, be it vocabulary or grammar is dropping. This is evolution, but evolution in a specific direction. > It does not make me

There is little doubt that the level, be it vocabulary or grammar is dropping. This is evolution, but evolution in a specific direction. > It does not make me too sad when an expression disrespectful specifically to women disappears. That's completely beside the point. I think what the author means is that those expressions are disappearing to be replaced by cruder versions (in "mindless slang and Frenglish", not that the language is becoming more PC. And, obviously these are only examples.

mamonster 3y ago
Grammar is basically destroyed already. Like 6-7 years ago I would be impressed upon hearing correct usage of the subjonctif. These days I am impressed by the correct usage of passé simple in plural. In terms of vocabulary, much more annoying than any anglicism are "wallah" and "wesh" in every sentence, especially from middle class zoomers.
- palata 3y ago
  > These days I am impressed by the correct usage of passé simple in plural. Are you sure you mean "passé simple" here?
palata 3y ago
> There is little doubt that the level, be it vocabulary or grammar is dropping. This is evolution, but evolution in a specific direction. Is it the same thing as saying that the language is disappearing, though? In my life, I have seen the end of my dialect. It has pretty much disappeared. I don't feel like French is remotely in the same situation. > That's completely beside the point. The author says: "Now, I can’t prove a cause and effect relationship between slang and Frenglish on the one hand and the disappearance of such expressions in the French language but the coincidence in time between the two categories of phenomena and this vanishing is troubling, at least". How is it completely beside the point to say that I don't find "Elle a la cuisse légère" to be "exquisite", and that my not using it is not due to "mindless slang and Frenglish" but out of respect for women?

mamonster 3y ago

Grammar is basically destroyed already. Like 6-7 years ago I would be impressed upon hearing correct usage of the subjonctif. These days I am impressed by the correct usage of passé simple in plural. In terms of vocabulary, much more annoying than any anglicism are "wallah" and "wesh" in every sentence, especially from middle class zoomers.

palata 3y ago
> These days I am impressed by the correct usage of passé simple in plural. Are you sure you mean "passé simple" here?

palata 3y ago

> There is little doubt that the level, be it vocabulary or grammar is dropping. This is evolution, but evolution in a specific direction. Is it the same thing as saying that the language is disappearing, though? In my life, I have seen the end of my dialect. It has pretty much disappeared. I don't feel like French is remotely in the same situation. > That's completely beside the point. The author says: "Now, I can’t prove a cause and effect relationship between slang and Frenglish on the one hand and the disappearance of such expressions in the French language but the coincidence in time between the two categories of phenomena and this vanishing is troubling, at least". How is it completely beside the point to say that I don't find "Elle a la cuisse légère" to be "exquisite", and that my not using it is not due to "mindless slang and Frenglish" but out of respect for women?