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I agree. The issue with taxing drivers is it assume the driver is mostly culpable. But the infrastructure decisions that force the majority of people to commute

I agree. The issue with taxing drivers is it assume the driver is mostly culpable. But the infrastructure decisions that force the majority of people to commute by car weren't made by them. You got things like the big boss and his managers all like to live close to each other and close to work. So they commute 5 minutes to the office in Sunnyvale. While the secretary is commuting from Vacaville. Placing a Pigouvian tax on the secretary is kinda a jerk move.

michaelmrose 3y ago
I suggested that housing be substantially expanded FIRST and then phase in increased taxes on cars in the city thereafter. Basically first make it possible for the secretary to have an opportunity to move close to Sunnyvale then years later if its still important to live in Vacaville they can pay increasing taxes representing the actual collective cost.
- autoexec 3y ago
  I suspect you'll run into similar difficulties convincing people to allow their single family homes to be bulldozed and give up their privacy, their equity, and their lawns/gardens so that they can move in with strangers. If you can't offer people a housing situation that's better for them than what they have you'll not get many people signing up to make their lives worse. Try to strong arm them into it and you'll get resistance and resentment. I think we have the ability to give people better, less isolated, housing options that many would find preferable to cookie cutter houses in labyrinth-like subdivisions that cut them off from the rest of the city unless they can drive, but those options will have to minimize the downsides of living in close proximity to many others and come with additional benefits that more than make up for what you're asking people to give up.
  - michaelmrose 3y ago
    The bulldozer comes after the sale of your newly more valuable property. WA just passed a law essentially ending single family home zoning. fourplexes can be build in any city of 75k, sixplexes near transit or if 2 are "affordable". https://www.usnews.com/news/us/articles/2023-05-08/washington-governor-signs-law-allowing-duplexes-fourplexes https://www.usnews.com/news/us/articles/2023-05-08/washingto... Separately some areas like shoreline have decided to allow upzoning near transit. 4 neighbors got together and sold realizing a 75% premium over home value. https://www.kiro7.com/news/local/neighbors-selling-homes-as-a-bundle-expected-to-rake-in-millions/538366805/ https://www.kiro7.com/news/local/neighbors-selling-homes-as-...

michaelmrose 3y ago

I suggested that housing be substantially expanded FIRST and then phase in increased taxes on cars in the city thereafter. Basically first make it possible for the secretary to have an opportunity to move close to Sunnyvale then years later if its still important to live in Vacaville they can pay increasing taxes representing the actual collective cost.

autoexec 3y ago
I suspect you'll run into similar difficulties convincing people to allow their single family homes to be bulldozed and give up their privacy, their equity, and their lawns/gardens so that they can move in with strangers. If you can't offer people a housing situation that's better for them than what they have you'll not get many people signing up to make their lives worse. Try to strong arm them into it and you'll get resistance and resentment. I think we have the ability to give people better, less isolated, housing options that many would find preferable to cookie cutter houses in labyrinth-like subdivisions that cut them off from the rest of the city unless they can drive, but those options will have to minimize the downsides of living in close proximity to many others and come with additional benefits that more than make up for what you're asking people to give up.
- michaelmrose 3y ago
  The bulldozer comes after the sale of your newly more valuable property. WA just passed a law essentially ending single family home zoning. fourplexes can be build in any city of 75k, sixplexes near transit or if 2 are "affordable". https://www.usnews.com/news/us/articles/2023-05-08/washington-governor-signs-law-allowing-duplexes-fourplexes https://www.usnews.com/news/us/articles/2023-05-08/washingto... Separately some areas like shoreline have decided to allow upzoning near transit. 4 neighbors got together and sold realizing a 75% premium over home value. https://www.kiro7.com/news/local/neighbors-selling-homes-as-a-bundle-expected-to-rake-in-millions/538366805/ https://www.kiro7.com/news/local/neighbors-selling-homes-as-...