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Do you work in tech in the United States? Congratulations, you’re one of the wealthiest people on the planet. That’s one hell of a market advantage.

iraqmtpizza 3y ago
Nothing like what it would have been without a non-stop flood of H-1Bs
- FirmwareBurner 3y ago
  Then offshore offices would be more and larger. You can't really stop capital flight by banning migration. Corporations are more mobile than workers.
  - iraqmtpizza 3y ago
    Nope. H-1Bs allow bringing in people from a dozen countries and having them together in an American office. Moving the company to a worse tax and legal environment with worse latency and worse food and weather and entertainment and prestige doesn't mean those workers will all leave their home countries and move there instead. Nor would the locals necessarily even allow that. EDIT: bro, you're the one that said corporations are mobile, not me. secondly, all of my points still apply to a satellite office. where the headquarters is or where it's incorporated is irrelevant. thirdly, if they still do significant business in the US then the US maintains massive leverage over them anyway. so, try again.
    - FirmwareBurner 3y ago
      Who said about moving the company? If you open another office offshore yoiu don't move the company. The HQ still stays in the US. >EDIT: bro, you're the one that said corporations are mobile, not me I say it and you misunderstand it. Mobile as they can open an office in any country, not move the HQ alltogethere.
- UncleMeat 3y ago
  Software developers create software development jobs. H1bs are a contributor to the fact that the US is the center for the software development industry. If companies weren't deciding to headquarter in the bay area to be at the center of things, there wouldn't be nearly as much upward pressure on US developer compensation.
  - iraqmtpizza 3y ago
    First of all, I don't care about the bay area, I care about the country at large. Secondly, software companies shouldn't be headquartered in the bay area when there are better states. Thirdly, you are wrongfully assuming that they all would leave the US if H-1Bs were curtailed. Fourthly, you don't specify where they would move to and how they could do without access to the labor pool here. It doesn't have to be a race to the bottom

iraqmtpizza 3y ago

Nothing like what it would have been without a non-stop flood of H-1Bs

FirmwareBurner 3y ago
Then offshore offices would be more and larger. You can't really stop capital flight by banning migration. Corporations are more mobile than workers.
- iraqmtpizza 3y ago
  Nope. H-1Bs allow bringing in people from a dozen countries and having them together in an American office. Moving the company to a worse tax and legal environment with worse latency and worse food and weather and entertainment and prestige doesn't mean those workers will all leave their home countries and move there instead. Nor would the locals necessarily even allow that. EDIT: bro, you're the one that said corporations are mobile, not me. secondly, all of my points still apply to a satellite office. where the headquarters is or where it's incorporated is irrelevant. thirdly, if they still do significant business in the US then the US maintains massive leverage over them anyway. so, try again.
  - FirmwareBurner 3y ago
    Who said about moving the company? If you open another office offshore yoiu don't move the company. The HQ still stays in the US. >EDIT: bro, you're the one that said corporations are mobile, not me I say it and you misunderstand it. Mobile as they can open an office in any country, not move the HQ alltogethere.
UncleMeat 3y ago
Software developers create software development jobs. H1bs are a contributor to the fact that the US is the center for the software development industry. If companies weren't deciding to headquarter in the bay area to be at the center of things, there wouldn't be nearly as much upward pressure on US developer compensation.
- iraqmtpizza 3y ago
  First of all, I don't care about the bay area, I care about the country at large. Secondly, software companies shouldn't be headquartered in the bay area when there are better states. Thirdly, you are wrongfully assuming that they all would leave the US if H-1Bs were curtailed. Fourthly, you don't specify where they would move to and how they could do without access to the labor pool here. It doesn't have to be a race to the bottom