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I don't believe for a hot second Spotify has 600,000,000 legitimate users.

by Solvency 3y ago

CrypticShift 3y ago
Well they speak of 236 million subscribers [1]. are they lying ? [1] https://newsroom.spotify.com/company-info/ https://newsroom.spotify.com/company-info/
- FireBeyond 3y ago
  Well, they'd need to cite something that shows that every Spotify member shares their membership with 1.6 other people. I'm skeptical of that. It's bad enough with Netflix recommendations and profiles - Spotify doesn't support profiles, so you're sharing your music choices with those people? Spotify is also pretty aggressive with account sharing.
  - samsin 3y ago
    More likely free users with their own accounts. Subscribed users are a subset of all users and I wouldn’t be surprised if unsubscribed users were the larger group.
- ipaddr 3y ago
  I've created 4 free accounts over the years but haven't spent a minute listening. I'm sure it's like facebook, once an account is created it's counted as a unique user forever.
  - filoleg 3y ago
    That’s ok, but they confirmed they have around 250mil paid subscribers. I can easily imagine 350-400mil free ones on top of that, especially since they explicitly say they only count active users, not just the number of user accounts.
willsmith72 3y ago
as in you believe there are illegitimate users? or what?
- ipaddr 3y ago
  Bots? People who signed up but don't use? Lost password for account? Of course. Their is an industry of botfarms listening to music.
caractacus 3y ago
602m monthly active users as of Q4 2023. That's in their investor deck and similar figures in their SEC reports. Around 250m premium subscribers, the rest on the free tier, accessing Spotify at least once per month. https://s29.q4cdn.com/175625835/files/doc_financials/2023/q4/Shareholder-Deck-Q4-2023-FINAL.pdf https://s29.q4cdn.com/175625835/files/doc_financials/2023/q4...

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I don't believe for a hot second Spotify has 600,000,000 legitimate users.

by Solvency 3y ago

I don't believe for a hot second Spotify has 600,000,000 legitimate users.

CrypticShift 3y ago
Well they speak of 236 million subscribers [1]. are they lying ? [1] https://newsroom.spotify.com/company-info/ https://newsroom.spotify.com/company-info/
- FireBeyond 3y ago
  Well, they'd need to cite something that shows that every Spotify member shares their membership with 1.6 other people. I'm skeptical of that. It's bad enough with Netflix recommendations and profiles - Spotify doesn't support profiles, so you're sharing your music choices with those people? Spotify is also pretty aggressive with account sharing.
  - samsin 3y ago
    More likely free users with their own accounts. Subscribed users are a subset of all users and I wouldn’t be surprised if unsubscribed users were the larger group.
- ipaddr 3y ago
  I've created 4 free accounts over the years but haven't spent a minute listening. I'm sure it's like facebook, once an account is created it's counted as a unique user forever.
  - filoleg 3y ago
    That’s ok, but they confirmed they have around 250mil paid subscribers. I can easily imagine 350-400mil free ones on top of that, especially since they explicitly say they only count active users, not just the number of user accounts.
willsmith72 3y ago
as in you believe there are illegitimate users? or what?
- ipaddr 3y ago
  Bots? People who signed up but don't use? Lost password for account? Of course. Their is an industry of botfarms listening to music.
caractacus 3y ago
602m monthly active users as of Q4 2023. That's in their investor deck and similar figures in their SEC reports. Around 250m premium subscribers, the rest on the free tier, accessing Spotify at least once per month. https://s29.q4cdn.com/175625835/files/doc_financials/2023/q4/Shareholder-Deck-Q4-2023-FINAL.pdf https://s29.q4cdn.com/175625835/files/doc_financials/2023/q4...