> unions challenge businesses (power to hire/fire). Which is kind of the problem with unions. If they stuck to negotiating pay levels while leaving businesses

> unions challenge businesses (power to hire/fire). Which is kind of the problem with unions. If they stuck to negotiating pay levels while leaving businesses free to hire and fire who they see fit I think employers would be much more willing to work with them. Higher salary expenses are much less damaging to a business than not being able to fire incompetent workers.