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> If 3P app developers want to access Apple's customers on a platform developed by Apple, then they should expect to play by Apple's rules... That whole argume

> If 3P app developers want to access Apple's customers on a platform developed by Apple, then they should expect to play by Apple's rules... That whole argument is based on the implicit assumption that Apple's products would still be as attractive to consumers as they are right now, even if they didn't allow 3rd party developers access to their platform. Which is a completely insane take, like literally pathologically insane, you-should-get-professional-help take for me to swallow.

015a 3y ago
Absolutely true. I know of one younger guy who used to have an iPhone, but switched to Android after the Fortnite debacle. This happens. Having fewer experiences on your mobile platform will never gain you more customers. Fortnite isn't big enough to move significant numbers alone, but if you include other third party developers Apple loves egotistically slighting, Spotify, Netflix, Microsoft, etc: Apple would not exist if they collectively decided to abandon Apple's platforms. They have given FAR, FAR MORE to Apple than Apple has given to them; its so lopsided anyone who thinks otherwise isn't thinking straight. These devs aren't doing this, by and large, today, because its not in their business interest to do so. But: capitalism is an efficiency maximizer. Software has lower margins today than it ever has, and they're only getting lower. The market simply cannot support 30% taxes forever; it'll happen one-by-one, its already happening one-by-one. Apple's choice is: Get ahead of it, find a better more efficient path for developers to distribute on their platforms; or watch their platforms become boring places where no one can possibly leverage their extremely bad and proprietary technology to make money, and "apps" only make sense for gigacorporations to distribute as a value-add for their web apps.
yungporko 3y ago
i'm aware that i'm a very small minority here, but i would actually love that. it'd be the closest thing i can get to a "dumbphone" that still allows me to track health/fitness stuff with my apple watch. i'd actually pay extra for it.

015a 3y ago

Absolutely true. I know of one younger guy who used to have an iPhone, but switched to Android after the Fortnite debacle. This happens. Having fewer experiences on your mobile platform will never gain you more customers. Fortnite isn't big enough to move significant numbers alone, but if you include other third party developers Apple loves egotistically slighting, Spotify, Netflix, Microsoft, etc: Apple would not exist if they collectively decided to abandon Apple's platforms. They have given FAR, FAR MORE to Apple than Apple has given to them; its so lopsided anyone who thinks otherwise isn't thinking straight. These devs aren't doing this, by and large, today, because its not in their business interest to do so. But: capitalism is an efficiency maximizer. Software has lower margins today than it ever has, and they're only getting lower. The market simply cannot support 30% taxes forever; it'll happen one-by-one, its already happening one-by-one. Apple's choice is: Get ahead of it, find a better more efficient path for developers to distribute on their platforms; or watch their platforms become boring places where no one can possibly leverage their extremely bad and proprietary technology to make money, and "apps" only make sense for gigacorporations to distribute as a value-add for their web apps.

yungporko 3y ago

i'm aware that i'm a very small minority here, but i would actually love that. it'd be the closest thing i can get to a "dumbphone" that still allows me to track health/fitness stuff with my apple watch. i'd actually pay extra for it.