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Yeah, and my house is for sale for just $300K when MS has $60 Billion in cash :). I would be shocked if they bought Nokia, it would mean a stop to all other non

Yeah, and my house is for sale for just $300K when MS has $60 Billion in cash :). I would be shocked if they bought Nokia, it would mean a stop to all other non-Nokia Win phones. I am willing to bet that MS will suck it up and help Nokia for quite a while though.

rollypolly 14y ago
Why not buy Nokia for its patents and dump the rest of the business then?
- loverobots 14y ago
  <opinion> Probably Nokia would demand north of $20 billion to even be in the game. A few more bad quarters can lower the price, but still, it's Nokia. MS has enough patents to scare the crap out of any rational company: they have been working in OS for decades and they patent everything. Long before the iPhone, MS came out with portable and mobile computers http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Windows_Mobile http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Windows_Mobile . The fact that their work never caught on, doesn't matter, the underlying tech is probably all patented. Add to that Nortel and Netscape patents (hello cookies, SSL and everything we take for granted now) and they are loaded with patents, especially since Android is an OS. Any win against MS is temporary; they don't mind opening their checkbook to license and to hire lawyers. As for Nokia's patents they can probably "buy" a few select ones to go after Motorola /Google instead of spending billions and billions Edit to add: If not for Google, Motorola would have undoubtedly kissed the ring too, like Samsung and almost every other company did. </opinion>
  - Uchikoma 14y ago
    "Long before the iPhone, MS came out with portable and mobile computers" Not to rain on your parade, but you do new about the Newton? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Newton_(platform) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Newton_(platform) (which I loved) And how late MS was to the portable game?
    - loverobots 14y ago
      Re-reading my comment it seems like I dissed Apple. I didn't mean to, actually I meant to say that OS developers (Apple obviously included) have a lot of patents that pertain to smartphones.
nextparadigms 14y ago
I don't know why the other manufacturers haven't quit already. By staying on WP7, they're just helping Nokia, which at least was in the past one of their biggest competitors. All the credit for WP7 goes to Nokia right now, and Microsoft will also make sure of that. If they didn't choose WP7 a year and a half ago, we wouldn't even be talking about WP7 right now, and they could've gotten rid of Nokia much more easily (which I'm sure it's something they'd like to see). But instead they sustained it until Nokia was ready to get all the credit for it, and now they'll get nothing out of it.
- underwater 14y ago
  If Microsoft and Nokia can make Windows Phone work then it will be very attractive to other manafacturers. They can how up late to the party and still have something that -- in the eyes of the public -- is identical to leading product.

rollypolly 14y ago

Why not buy Nokia for its patents and dump the rest of the business then?

loverobots 14y ago
<opinion> Probably Nokia would demand north of $20 billion to even be in the game. A few more bad quarters can lower the price, but still, it's Nokia. MS has enough patents to scare the crap out of any rational company: they have been working in OS for decades and they patent everything. Long before the iPhone, MS came out with portable and mobile computers http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Windows_Mobile http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Windows_Mobile . The fact that their work never caught on, doesn't matter, the underlying tech is probably all patented. Add to that Nortel and Netscape patents (hello cookies, SSL and everything we take for granted now) and they are loaded with patents, especially since Android is an OS. Any win against MS is temporary; they don't mind opening their checkbook to license and to hire lawyers. As for Nokia's patents they can probably "buy" a few select ones to go after Motorola /Google instead of spending billions and billions Edit to add: If not for Google, Motorola would have undoubtedly kissed the ring too, like Samsung and almost every other company did. </opinion>
- Uchikoma 14y ago
  "Long before the iPhone, MS came out with portable and mobile computers" Not to rain on your parade, but you do new about the Newton? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Newton_(platform) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Newton_(platform) (which I loved) And how late MS was to the portable game?
  - loverobots 14y ago
    Re-reading my comment it seems like I dissed Apple. I didn't mean to, actually I meant to say that OS developers (Apple obviously included) have a lot of patents that pertain to smartphones.

nextparadigms 14y ago

I don't know why the other manufacturers haven't quit already. By staying on WP7, they're just helping Nokia, which at least was in the past one of their biggest competitors. All the credit for WP7 goes to Nokia right now, and Microsoft will also make sure of that. If they didn't choose WP7 a year and a half ago, we wouldn't even be talking about WP7 right now, and they could've gotten rid of Nokia much more easily (which I'm sure it's something they'd like to see). But instead they sustained it until Nokia was ready to get all the credit for it, and now they'll get nothing out of it.

underwater 14y ago
If Microsoft and Nokia can make Windows Phone work then it will be very attractive to other manafacturers. They can how up late to the party and still have something that -- in the eyes of the public -- is identical to leading product.