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If we are entertaining each others with stories I can tell you about the pains of untangling wired headphones or the fact that all my headphones failed due to a

If we are entertaining each others with stories I can tell you about the pains of untangling wired headphones or the fact that all my headphones failed due to a "contact" issue the jack developed. Or the number of times my headphones got yanked because I was walking with them on and the cables got entangled in something. Or how with wired headphones one needs to remove to be able to step away from the computer, while with a wireless one I can keep listening anywhere around my home.

justsomehnguy 3y ago
> about the pains of untangling wired headphones First world problems. Also they still can work, so in a pinch you can just insert them tangled. > all my headphones failed due to a "contact" issue the jack developed If all your headphones are susceptible for this then it looks like the problem is not in the headphones. > Or the number of times my headphones got yanked because I was walking with them on and the cables got entangled in something. Yep, they are wired. > one needs to remove to be able to step away from the computer Yes, they are wired. Are you annoyed what you need to stand up to step away from computer? Wired headphones has some disadvantages compared to wireless ones, but the problem lies again in what Apple said 'fuck you consumers you will eat it and ask for more', consumers ate it and asked for more and idiots followed the suit, too. You know, BT (if we are talking only about phones) headphones are an old thing, 20 years if we count only BT EDR. All^W Most of those years anyone could choose the tech they like more. But now Apple fanbois and you tell me what I need to ditch my wire headphones, because wireless are working better for you. No, it doesn't work better for me. More so, I tried it multiple times and I can surely tell what it's not not just as an opinion, but backed by my actual experience. And I love what I can forget my headphones for a month and they would still work even if I forgot to charge them the last time I used them, lol. NB: the last year I smashed my phone up to the broken screen, first time in my life (Ericsson A1018 doesn't count, it was only a battery cover clip). I smashed it not because it was laying on the table while I stepped away with my headphones already inserted both in the phone and my ears, but because I was quite drunk (or more like drunk AF) and didn't noticed that. Is this a table problem or my phone problem (hey, only 1+ meter high!) or it's my problem? While it wouldn't happen with a wireless ones, the common sense says it's not the headphones' fault.
- 2024throwaway 3y ago
  > First world problems. In a thread about modern cellphone technology is _hilarious_.
  - justsomehnguy 3y ago
    Yes, I knew that when I wrote that comment. Thank you.
- krisoft 3y ago
  > First world problems. Second actually. But not sure how cold war allegiances have anything to do with the topic in question. > Yes, they are wired. That is the point. If we treat the downsides of one technology as given and baseline then of course the other technology will look deficient compared to it. But if we look at the pros and cons of both technologies we might see why people prefer one to the other. > Apple said 'fuck you consumers you will eat it and ask for more', consumers ate it and asked for more and idiots followed the suit, too. Not really classy calling people idiots. Especially when you are just chatting with someone who is taking the point of view you are calling idiotic. > you tell me what I need to ditch my wire headphones, Done no such a thing. You do whatever you want to and I'm wishing you the best with it. I'm merely explaining why I prefer my wireless headphones. You know, just comparing notes on existence among fellow travellers. > I love what I can forget my headphones for a month and they would still work even if I forgot to charge them the last time I used them, lol. I will give you that. That is a bummer. I walked today to the shop an wanted to listen to my DnD podcast and my headphone announced that it is running low on battery. I was worried it will cut out on me and I will have to wait before I can learn how the intrepid heroes deal with the nightmare king. Luckily it kept working for the walk. But yeah that is a bummer.
  - ambichook 3y ago
    pros and cons exist yes, but the core issue is that with a lot of phones you dont really have an option to choose which pros outweigh the cons, you're told to suck it up and use bluetooth. i love my wf-1000xm4s, but i also love my catos, which played a large factor in why i chose the phone i did, the choice to pick one or the other depending on how i'm feeling matters to me. i dont want bluetooth audio to go away, but at the same time i dont want wired to go either. maybe one day i'll get a dedicated DAP and be able to freely pick whatever phone without suffering as much of a consequence but in the meantime thats too expensive and bulky for me to justify
user_7832 3y ago
While wireless headphones do have some convenience, it's not necessary to lose a 3.5mm jack to use them
toastal 3y ago
There are ways to wrap cables so they don’t tangle. Many IEMs & hearbuds come with a carrying case like a Bluetooth pair might (without fire hazard of batteries). Wrapping up cables ‘correctly’ plus keeping them stored tightly in a container is a recipe for no tangles. If I know you are going to moving up & down often, I opt for using my pocket DAP that can support two-way Bluetooth transmission + USB DAC so I can freely move around & unplug--but more often I just replug them into my phone or DAP when doing another task, then the plug IEMs back into my laptop or audio interface when I return. I had used a pair of wireless earbuds for a year & I can’t tell you the number of calls I had to cancel early due to listening to music earlier & now not having enough charge. I’ve also had botched firmware upgrades & an app with trackers needed to installed just to get those updates, something analog didn’t deal with. The technology is far from the total-upgrade you are pitching--especially when all your digital apparatuses have a jack, the analog convenience of pulling the plug from one to the next without the fiddling of Bluetooth menus.

justsomehnguy 3y ago

> about the pains of untangling wired headphones First world problems. Also they still can work, so in a pinch you can just insert them tangled. > all my headphones failed due to a "contact" issue the jack developed If all your headphones are susceptible for this then it looks like the problem is not in the headphones. > Or the number of times my headphones got yanked because I was walking with them on and the cables got entangled in something. Yep, they are wired. > one needs to remove to be able to step away from the computer Yes, they are wired. Are you annoyed what you need to stand up to step away from computer? Wired headphones has some disadvantages compared to wireless ones, but the problem lies again in what Apple said 'fuck you consumers you will eat it and ask for more', consumers ate it and asked for more and idiots followed the suit, too. You know, BT (if we are talking only about phones) headphones are an old thing, 20 years if we count only BT EDR. All^W Most of those years anyone could choose the tech they like more. But now Apple fanbois and you tell me what I need to ditch my wire headphones, because wireless are working better for you. No, it doesn't work better for me. More so, I tried it multiple times and I can surely tell what it's not not just as an opinion, but backed by my actual experience. And I love what I can forget my headphones for a month and they would still work even if I forgot to charge them the last time I used them, lol. NB: the last year I smashed my phone up to the broken screen, first time in my life (Ericsson A1018 doesn't count, it was only a battery cover clip). I smashed it not because it was laying on the table while I stepped away with my headphones already inserted both in the phone and my ears, but because I was quite drunk (or more like drunk AF) and didn't noticed that. Is this a table problem or my phone problem (hey, only 1+ meter high!) or it's my problem? While it wouldn't happen with a wireless ones, the common sense says it's not the headphones' fault.

2024throwaway 3y ago
> First world problems. In a thread about modern cellphone technology is _hilarious_.
- justsomehnguy 3y ago
  Yes, I knew that when I wrote that comment. Thank you.
krisoft 3y ago
> First world problems. Second actually. But not sure how cold war allegiances have anything to do with the topic in question. > Yes, they are wired. That is the point. If we treat the downsides of one technology as given and baseline then of course the other technology will look deficient compared to it. But if we look at the pros and cons of both technologies we might see why people prefer one to the other. > Apple said 'fuck you consumers you will eat it and ask for more', consumers ate it and asked for more and idiots followed the suit, too. Not really classy calling people idiots. Especially when you are just chatting with someone who is taking the point of view you are calling idiotic. > you tell me what I need to ditch my wire headphones, Done no such a thing. You do whatever you want to and I'm wishing you the best with it. I'm merely explaining why I prefer my wireless headphones. You know, just comparing notes on existence among fellow travellers. > I love what I can forget my headphones for a month and they would still work even if I forgot to charge them the last time I used them, lol. I will give you that. That is a bummer. I walked today to the shop an wanted to listen to my DnD podcast and my headphone announced that it is running low on battery. I was worried it will cut out on me and I will have to wait before I can learn how the intrepid heroes deal with the nightmare king. Luckily it kept working for the walk. But yeah that is a bummer.
- ambichook 3y ago
  pros and cons exist yes, but the core issue is that with a lot of phones you dont really have an option to choose which pros outweigh the cons, you're told to suck it up and use bluetooth. i love my wf-1000xm4s, but i also love my catos, which played a large factor in why i chose the phone i did, the choice to pick one or the other depending on how i'm feeling matters to me. i dont want bluetooth audio to go away, but at the same time i dont want wired to go either. maybe one day i'll get a dedicated DAP and be able to freely pick whatever phone without suffering as much of a consequence but in the meantime thats too expensive and bulky for me to justify

user_7832 3y ago

While wireless headphones do have some convenience, it's not necessary to lose a 3.5mm jack to use them

toastal 3y ago

There are ways to wrap cables so they don’t tangle. Many IEMs & hearbuds come with a carrying case like a Bluetooth pair might (without fire hazard of batteries). Wrapping up cables ‘correctly’ plus keeping them stored tightly in a container is a recipe for no tangles. If I know you are going to moving up & down often, I opt for using my pocket DAP that can support two-way Bluetooth transmission + USB DAC so I can freely move around & unplug--but more often I just replug them into my phone or DAP when doing another task, then the plug IEMs back into my laptop or audio interface when I return. I had used a pair of wireless earbuds for a year & I can’t tell you the number of calls I had to cancel early due to listening to music earlier & now not having enough charge. I’ve also had botched firmware upgrades & an app with trackers needed to installed just to get those updates, something analog didn’t deal with. The technology is far from the total-upgrade you are pitching--especially when all your digital apparatuses have a jack, the analog convenience of pulling the plug from one to the next without the fiddling of Bluetooth menus.