> These aliens are doing 25-27mph, if you have the inevitable sway from the lack of the triangle, you'll lose power to the drivetrain. I suspect they're actual

> These aliens are doing 25-27mph, if you have the inevitable sway from the lack of the triangle, you'll lose power to the drivetrain. I suspect they're actually really stiff because of the amount of carbon fibre in the construction. What I also suspect is the aerodynamic gains are being overstated in the real-world, which would explain why the pros are going for more standard bikes. The current brands (Canyon, Specialized, Argon-18, Cube) are probably close enough (or faster) in practice that the sponsor money is a better trade-off. > And the other laughable thing is the wheels in those bikes. Where are the disc wheels? A disc wheel is often more important than the frame and helmet. For performance, I 100% agree. That said, disc wheels from the big brands are expensive enough that $10,000 still doesn't cover it. And they probably don't want to put cheaper Chinese wheels on for image purposes (though owning an Elitewheels disc, I'd suspect they're in the same ballpark for aero performance). > then 10,000$ for a frame, and that's the last 1/3 of the gain. It's probably even less than that (going from one TT frame to another) but, hey, if it looks fast, isn't that the real victory? ;-)