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> Unless your company provide automatic backup management with straightforward recovery for your employees You make this sound like some kind of pipe dream. I

by hnarn 3y ago

> Unless your company provide automatic backup management with straightforward recovery for your employees You make this sound like some kind of pipe dream. I don't know what companies you've been at, but for a lot of large corporations today it's completely normal to store all your data in the cloud, from documents at O365 to bespoke SaaS services like gitlab or book-keeping or whatever -- and the ones that don't do it for whatever reasons usually do something very similar, just internally via self-hosting. If every single employee needs to back up their unique snowflake workstation, then something is fundamentally wrong with how data is handled in the first place. > your most cautious employees will backup their device in order not to lose their work The reason employees do this in the first place is because they don't trust the company to ensure the data doesn't disappear. That's the problem right there. I've seen it many times and it's always in chaotic companies filled with shadow IT, which of course are the most vulnerable companies for the same reason.

littlestymaar 3y ago
Of course there's something fundamentally wrong with how the data is handled in the first place at most company big or small, welcome to the real world. BTW the setup you describe with data being replicated in various places without specific coherence is exactly a situation of “there something fundamentally wrong”, and I've yet to see a company where there's a whole-PC backup job running in the background that gives the ability for the IT to give you a clone of your computer on demand in case of loss/failure (and I'm saying a clone of the computer: from the post-it to-do lists, your keybindings/ preferences in software, your bash aliases and small helper scripts, to the customized toolchain you spent three days setting up on five years back and don't remember how to install). Not everyone uses their computer as a mere PowerPoint consumption device… I suppose companies using Mac could do that because that's exactly what time capsule allows you to do but idk if that's easy to deploy company-wide. Anyway, none of what you said justifies to block workers from using their own device (they can and will use the cloud tools you mention with no issue from their computer), and invoking IP protection reasons is just security theater.

by hnarn 3y ago

littlestymaar 3y ago

Of course there's something fundamentally wrong with how the data is handled in the first place at most company big or small, welcome to the real world. BTW the setup you describe with data being replicated in various places without specific coherence is exactly a situation of “there something fundamentally wrong”, and I've yet to see a company where there's a whole-PC backup job running in the background that gives the ability for the IT to give you a clone of your computer on demand in case of loss/failure (and I'm saying a clone of the computer: from the post-it to-do lists, your keybindings/ preferences in software, your bash aliases and small helper scripts, to the customized toolchain you spent three days setting up on five years back and don't remember how to install). Not everyone uses their computer as a mere PowerPoint consumption device… I suppose companies using Mac could do that because that's exactly what time capsule allows you to do but idk if that's easy to deploy company-wide. Anyway, none of what you said justifies to block workers from using their own device (they can and will use the cloud tools you mention with no issue from their computer), and invoking IP protection reasons is just security theater.