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So what he should have kids who are going to take care of him when he's old? Sure, that's a great reason to have children.

nyokodo 3y ago
> that's a great reason to have children. It’s a normal and perfectly healthy reason to have children if you also love and cherish them. I would bet the number of parents having children for the sole and totally disinterested benefit of the children is approximately zero. The OP not caring about humanity tells me they’re profoundly selfish and therefore probably not capable of the love and cherish part though.
- kelnos 3y ago
  No, it's an incredibly selfish reason to have children. Certainly people have children for a variety of reasons, but if a big one is "who else will take care of me when I get old?", that's incredibly selfish, and not healthy at all. Loving and cherishing your children regardless doesn't change that. I love how you've somehow twisted the person upthread's words into the idea that they don't care about humanity. This entire subthread is bizarre.
  - TheCapeGreek 3y ago
    I agree with you. I respect my father more for telling me he actively doesn't place care expectations on me in his old age. "I made you, you are not responsible for me but I am responsible for you". Does that mean I won't care for him? Of course not, but it's good to know I haven't come into existence just for that.
- TheCapeGreek 3y ago
  You can care about humanity without needing to want to have kids. Why are we acting like everyone's lifestyle preferences are of paramount importance to everyone else's existence? OP is not taking from any other parents here, and there are still plenty more humans to make more humans. Is there a hidden fear here that having an enjoyable childless life will somehow spread everywhere and we all die in a generation?
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Detrytus 3y ago
Well, someone will have to take care of him. If it's not his children then probably some nurse in a nursing home. And guess what? That nurse is also someone's child. No children today equals labor shortage tomorrow.

nyokodo 3y ago

> that's a great reason to have children. It’s a normal and perfectly healthy reason to have children if you also love and cherish them. I would bet the number of parents having children for the sole and totally disinterested benefit of the children is approximately zero. The OP not caring about humanity tells me they’re profoundly selfish and therefore probably not capable of the love and cherish part though.

kelnos 3y ago
No, it's an incredibly selfish reason to have children. Certainly people have children for a variety of reasons, but if a big one is "who else will take care of me when I get old?", that's incredibly selfish, and not healthy at all. Loving and cherishing your children regardless doesn't change that. I love how you've somehow twisted the person upthread's words into the idea that they don't care about humanity. This entire subthread is bizarre.
- TheCapeGreek 3y ago
  I agree with you. I respect my father more for telling me he actively doesn't place care expectations on me in his old age. "I made you, you are not responsible for me but I am responsible for you". Does that mean I won't care for him? Of course not, but it's good to know I haven't come into existence just for that.
TheCapeGreek 3y ago
You can care about humanity without needing to want to have kids. Why are we acting like everyone's lifestyle preferences are of paramount importance to everyone else's existence? OP is not taking from any other parents here, and there are still plenty more humans to make more humans. Is there a hidden fear here that having an enjoyable childless life will somehow spread everywhere and we all die in a generation?

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Detrytus 3y ago

Well, someone will have to take care of him. If it's not his children then probably some nurse in a nursing home. And guess what? That nurse is also someone's child. No children today equals labor shortage tomorrow.