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Anecdotally I've noticed that while the job market isn't good for software engineers, its seems to be much much worse for all the supportive roles like eng mana
by coffeecloud 3y ago
Anecdotally I've noticed that while the job market isn't good for software engineers, its seems to be much much worse for all the supportive roles like eng managers/product managers/designers/dev rel/ etc.
In my circle these seem to be the people who have been really struggling to find work, whereas the devs do seem to be finding work (just at a slower pace and with worse benefits than before.)
Is this just my bubble or have other people been seeing this too?
- throwawaysleep 3y agoAlso my experience at both employers and anecdotally. A lot of this is the pervasive management trend that there is too much management, like how Instagram just eliminated the entire role of Technical Program Manager. So at Job 1, the layoffs were about 50% “management.” My team no longer has a product manager and we have been told not to bother fussing over design except for big things. Both roles were essentially folded into team lead. He has to make mockups and product decisions now. At Job 2, the layoffs were 70% management. My team had a manager who went from leading one team of 5 to four teams totaling 25. We also lost our designer and a product owner (we had several), and those decisions are now on the other product owners or the technical team lead (not management at this role).
- slumpt_ 3y agoJob market seems healthy for anyone with sufficient experience. My company is hiring, my inbox is slammed with companies hiring. And this is for product engineering and leadership. The market is cold for juniors, and unclear when/how that’s changing. Edit for context, but this is in silicon valley. Never relocated during the pandemic - always suspected this might end up being the case.