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California can still ace software in the long run. Second the secret sauce with apple isn't physical hw or software but the ability to set out both in a integra

by scrubs 3y ago

California can still ace software in the long run. Second the secret sauce with apple isn't physical hw or software but the ability to set out both in a integrated fashion and actually get all the parts to hit targets to deliver. Beating apple on software (linux?) is one thing. Ditto hw. Both at the same time is tougher. Apple is operationally strong. That won't leave to China either. Sure they've messed up etc etc but nothing life threatening

Al-Khwarizmi 3y ago
Huawei had achieved phones with a really strong hardware+software combination. Before sanctions, it had surpassed 20% market share in Europe (https://www.statista.com/statistics/1232281/huawei-smartphone-market-share-in-europe/ https://www.statista.com/statistics/1232281/huawei-smartphon...). Then the US sanctions, supposedly unrelated to the mobile phone market, hit Huawei hard making it pretty much undesirable to buy their phones in the Western market, and its market share in Europe plunged to near zero. How convenient. Spanish forums and social networks are still full of "Huawei orphans" who can't find any Android phone in the current market that can match the quality of the pre-sanctions Huawei P20/P30/P20 Pro/P30 Pro flagships. It's a recurrent post topic. I'm one of them, and I'm even considering switching to Apple. My current phone (Pixel 6 Pro) doesn't even come close to my previous Huawei P30 Pro in battery life, signal reliability, heating issues, etc. and it's the same for every other Android model I've seen from family/friends. While it does have great camera and software, in many respects it feels like more of a downgrade than an upgrade. At least I can keep using my Huawei smartwatch which gives me two weeks of battery life, rather than a few days like most of the competition. With this I mean... China is very capable of developing high-quality products like California, but California can leverage its political and military power to tilt things in their favor. At least at the moment.
- jstarfish 3y ago
  As an American, I'd never even seen a Huawei device until I saw a Huawei table at a Yodabashi in Japan, and you aren't kidding about quality. They're what Samsung could be if they actually had their shit together. That said, I don't believe the sanctions are at all an anti-competitive move; the threat of hardware (Huawei, DJI) and software (TikTok) backdooring is very real. The sanctions hit more than just phones anyway-- Huawei routers are also affected.

by scrubs 3y ago

Al-Khwarizmi 3y ago

Huawei had achieved phones with a really strong hardware+software combination. Before sanctions, it had surpassed 20% market share in Europe (https://www.statista.com/statistics/1232281/huawei-smartphone-market-share-in-europe/ https://www.statista.com/statistics/1232281/huawei-smartphon...). Then the US sanctions, supposedly unrelated to the mobile phone market, hit Huawei hard making it pretty much undesirable to buy their phones in the Western market, and its market share in Europe plunged to near zero. How convenient. Spanish forums and social networks are still full of "Huawei orphans" who can't find any Android phone in the current market that can match the quality of the pre-sanctions Huawei P20/P30/P20 Pro/P30 Pro flagships. It's a recurrent post topic. I'm one of them, and I'm even considering switching to Apple. My current phone (Pixel 6 Pro) doesn't even come close to my previous Huawei P30 Pro in battery life, signal reliability, heating issues, etc. and it's the same for every other Android model I've seen from family/friends. While it does have great camera and software, in many respects it feels like more of a downgrade than an upgrade. At least I can keep using my Huawei smartwatch which gives me two weeks of battery life, rather than a few days like most of the competition. With this I mean... China is very capable of developing high-quality products like California, but California can leverage its political and military power to tilt things in their favor. At least at the moment.

jstarfish 3y ago
As an American, I'd never even seen a Huawei device until I saw a Huawei table at a Yodabashi in Japan, and you aren't kidding about quality. They're what Samsung could be if they actually had their shit together. That said, I don't believe the sanctions are at all an anti-competitive move; the threat of hardware (Huawei, DJI) and software (TikTok) backdooring is very real. The sanctions hit more than just phones anyway-- Huawei routers are also affected.