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No it isn’t different as a first. Teaching people to read English isn’t difficult, and as you said was solved hundreds of years ago. There is something else g

No it isn’t different as a first. Teaching people to read English isn’t difficult, and as you said was solved hundreds of years ago. There is something else going on. I wasn’t even taught to read, I just picked it up because my parents read to me before I even went to school and I wanted to read books. I made a perfect score on the ACT test reading component. >Nearly half of California students can’t read at grade level. This is a complete travesty in one of the most developed countries on Earth. I’m sure phonics would help, my Mom is a special ed teacher and teaches phonics to her students and never stopped.

gnicholas 3y ago
> I made a perfect score on the ACT test reading component. This seems a bit out of place. How are ACT scores relevant to phonics-based instruction? Typically the ACT happens a decade after a kid learns to read, right?
pavel_lishin 3y ago
Consider that you may be somewhat of an outlier.
- Mistletoe 3y ago
  Yes that’s certainly true, I didn’t do anything to really earn it other than have a desire to read and enjoy reading. I also didn’t have anything else to do to escape, so books were it. No phones, no tv shows, no video games, no YouTube. Not because my parents restricted them but just because they didn’t exist back then and especially in the rural area we lived. I remember turning the tv to snow and pretending I was playing Space Invaders, which had just come out. :)
- ithkuil 3y ago
  > my mom is a special ed teacher Yeah, that's quite specific and relevant
oooyay 3y ago
Kinda like you, I was taught using what amounts to phonics. I learned words, then I was shown those words in a book once I knew how to say them. My reading and speaking were years ahead of my peers. I remember when Hooked on Phonics came around at my school it struck me that the way I was taught had a name and it didn't really occur to me anyone learned that differently. I think the more modern problem is that a lot of parents offload things like this to the education system, so they become classified as emerging education issues. There's probably lots of cause and effect incentive system related reasons for that. I had three siblings that weren't served dinner unless they taught me to say a new word.

gnicholas 3y ago

> I made a perfect score on the ACT test reading component. This seems a bit out of place. How are ACT scores relevant to phonics-based instruction? Typically the ACT happens a decade after a kid learns to read, right?

pavel_lishin 3y ago

Consider that you may be somewhat of an outlier.

Mistletoe 3y ago
Yes that’s certainly true, I didn’t do anything to really earn it other than have a desire to read and enjoy reading. I also didn’t have anything else to do to escape, so books were it. No phones, no tv shows, no video games, no YouTube. Not because my parents restricted them but just because they didn’t exist back then and especially in the rural area we lived. I remember turning the tv to snow and pretending I was playing Space Invaders, which had just come out. :)
ithkuil 3y ago
> my mom is a special ed teacher Yeah, that's quite specific and relevant

oooyay 3y ago

Kinda like you, I was taught using what amounts to phonics. I learned words, then I was shown those words in a book once I knew how to say them. My reading and speaking were years ahead of my peers. I remember when Hooked on Phonics came around at my school it struck me that the way I was taught had a name and it didn't really occur to me anyone learned that differently. I think the more modern problem is that a lot of parents offload things like this to the education system, so they become classified as emerging education issues. There's probably lots of cause and effect incentive system related reasons for that. I had three siblings that weren't served dinner unless they taught me to say a new word.