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No. Cops should not even be carrying deadly weapons of any kind. Maybe tasers. Mayber pepper spray. We have a legal system for a reason. Giving a cop any letha
by MeImCounting 3y ago
No. Cops should not even be carrying deadly weapons of any kind. Maybe tasers. Mayber pepper spray.
We have a legal system for a reason. Giving a cop any lethal weapon is passive acceptance that he may circumvent the legal system and put himself in the position of judge jury and executioner. This is wrong and erodes trust in police and the judicial system vastly more than any other issue. No cops should have guns, not "SWAT" team, not beat cops, none.
- ethanbond 3y agoGot it. Cops responding to e.g. reports of a shooter walking classroom to classroom executing 5th graders should have maybe tasers or pepper spray. Cops responding to e.g. reports of a group of jihadists ambushing restaurants in a crowded European nightlife district: MAYBE tasers and pepper spray! Here in reality, awful stuff happens on a daily basis. Get a grip.
- amrangaye 3y agoWhat’re you talking about? We’re discussing how in this particular case it would be trivial for the police department to see that this house has been SWATed 47 (!) times, which obviously means there’s something going on. How do you get from that to a school shooter executing students (what a horrible image to use for your argument so it’s based on emotion, and accusing people who disagree with you of being OK with school shootings). There’s place for nuance, esp when guns and lives are involved.
- ethanbond 3y agoBecause the GGP, to whom I replied, made much broader claims which I’ve already cited above. The more immediate GP doubled down and clarified the (insane) belief that cops should NEVER be armed, except perhaps tasers and pepper spray.
- MeImCounting 3y agoSo to clarify its totally fine for police to act as judge jury and executioner if the crime is bad enough? Screw the whole legal process and the idea of trials, juries and the rule of law generally? At this point why do we even have a judicial apparatus? Just give cops carte blanche to do whatever they see fit, since we dont care about the rule of law anyway.
- ethanbond 3y agoNo
- MeImCounting 3y agoSo wait its not good for cops to execute people at will or what? Now I'm confused...
- ethanbond 3y agoOf course it’s not good for cops to “execute people at will.” What are you confused about?
- MeImCounting 3y agoI am confused about what the guns are for if not for killing people. It seems like you already said you dont believe in just circumventing due process and the judicial system so I am just at a total loss in trying to understand why the police would need guns. Maybe killing dogs?
- ethanbond 3y agoI am very sorry to hear you’re at a total loss in trying to understand why the police would need guns. Do you live in the US?
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