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> Why should others pay for your choice? Procreation is a choice on an individual level but on a societal level it is not a choice at all, it is absolutely man

> Why should others pay for your choice? Procreation is a choice on an individual level but on a societal level it is not a choice at all, it is absolutely mandatory. So, someone's got to do it, and if you're not going to do it, then it's not unreasonable for you to contribute to others who are doing it. Furthermore, if you benefit from future workers in any way in the future without having kids of your own, if you did not help pay for those kids then you're effectively benefiting from something you didn't do shit for: namely raising those kids who became workers who ended up paying for your pension, keeping the lights on, keeping your ETFs growing, paying for your healthcare, etc., etc... So you should pay, or you should have kids.

anticorporate 3y ago
> Procreation is a choice on an individual level but on a societal level it is not a choice at all, it is absolutely mandatory. It absolutely is not. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Voluntary_Human_Extinction_Movement https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Voluntary_Human_Extinction_Mov...
- ericd 3y ago
  That just means that whatever society believes that will go extinct, and other societies will take over their resources. But sure, some society can commit suicide if it wants.
- monkeywork 3y ago
  that sort of movement is thankfully incredibly niche. anyone serious about that sort of crazy should start with themselves.