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Cost of housing

by geenat 3y ago

Cost of housing

angmarsbane 3y ago
In the USA there are affordable 55+ no kids allowed housing developments near job centers. Why can’t we build or subsidize similar developments for families with kids.
smcl 3y ago
I mean, cost of many things but yeah housing is an enormous factor. If you're not certain you can settle down somewhere with enough room to have a family (or even to live on your own, in some cases) you're going to put off having one, sometimes indefinitely.
thinkingtoilet 3y ago
Cost of literally everything. Housing, food, health insurance, education, child care, etc... all while wages are stagnant. Our society is sick and the people in charge are wildly out of touch with the reality most people face.
- acdha 3y ago
  Housing is the biggest one here, though, because it hits in two key ways: people need bigger houses to have kids but also they need childcare, and the cost of real estate makes that brutal because people need daycare to be close enough to be practical travel-wise and it’s a labor-intensive business without great economies of scale so all of the workers also need to be able to make rent in the area. This is a classic area where government support would make a huge difference: don’t have a bunch of small businesses competing with Starbucks on rent, and have things like healthcare paid for out of a huge pool of employees.
jnwatson 3y ago
Plus folks are graduating with a lot more debt.
freefaler 3y ago
In Sydney you'd need around 72% of a minimal wage to cover your rent. And you need food, transportation, clothes & etc ... So to begin thinking about having kids you'd need to make a few very hard choices: 1. forget of owning a home in your life time based on a regular salary 2. earn at least +1.5K AUD/month per child Sometimes it's easier for a parent to stay at home and usually it's the woman, because when the children are small they are better taken care by her. So it's at least 1 - 1.5 year off work. After that before children grow at least to 3-4 years old it's always going to a doctor or needing time to stay at home with the child. This disadvantages the career of a person staying at home and you need that second income to pay for the childcare. People aren't stupid, that's why when the going gets tough they don't want to have additional problems to worry about.

Cost of housing

by geenat 3y ago

Cost of housing

In the USA there are affordable 55+ no kids allowed housing developments near job centers. Why can’t we build or subsidize similar developments for families with kids.

smcl 3y ago

I mean, cost of many things but yeah housing is an enormous factor. If you're not certain you can settle down somewhere with enough room to have a family (or even to live on your own, in some cases) you're going to put off having one, sometimes indefinitely.

thinkingtoilet 3y ago

Cost of literally everything. Housing, food, health insurance, education, child care, etc... all while wages are stagnant. Our society is sick and the people in charge are wildly out of touch with the reality most people face.

acdha 3y ago
Housing is the biggest one here, though, because it hits in two key ways: people need bigger houses to have kids but also they need childcare, and the cost of real estate makes that brutal because people need daycare to be close enough to be practical travel-wise and it’s a labor-intensive business without great economies of scale so all of the workers also need to be able to make rent in the area. This is a classic area where government support would make a huge difference: don’t have a bunch of small businesses competing with Starbucks on rent, and have things like healthcare paid for out of a huge pool of employees.

jnwatson 3y ago

Plus folks are graduating with a lot more debt.

freefaler 3y ago

In Sydney you'd need around 72% of a minimal wage to cover your rent. And you need food, transportation, clothes & etc ... So to begin thinking about having kids you'd need to make a few very hard choices: 1. forget of owning a home in your life time based on a regular salary 2. earn at least +1.5K AUD/month per child Sometimes it's easier for a parent to stay at home and usually it's the woman, because when the children are small they are better taken care by her. So it's at least 1 - 1.5 year off work. After that before children grow at least to 3-4 years old it's always going to a doctor or needing time to stay at home with the child. This disadvantages the career of a person staying at home and you need that second income to pay for the childcare. People aren't stupid, that's why when the going gets tough they don't want to have additional problems to worry about.