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This. I would also call a 145lb squat and 225 deadlift “completely untrained” These aren’t uncommon numbers for someone who has never exercised before.
by geraldwhen 3y ago
This. I would also call a 145lb squat and 225 deadlift “completely untrained”
These aren’t uncommon numbers for someone who has never exercised before.
- jvanderbot 3y agoWell, depends on weight. These are reasonable goals for a 160lb person after a bit of working out. Not a lifetime, but not untrained. Here's the reference I use: https://exrx.net/Testing/WeightLifting/StrengthStandards https://exrx.net/Testing/WeightLifting/StrengthStandards
- canaus 3y agoSure, a completely untrained 6ft+ 200lbs male. Try to get someone under 150lbs that weight untrained and they’d be immovable objects.
- IAmGraydon 3y agoThis sounds like something a scrawny/short little guy would say to compensate. Tell us you’re insecure without telling us you’re insecure. Your other comments are just as laughable. A teenage girl can dead 405? I bet you have a lot of friends :) As someone who does actually understand this topic, no untrained person is going to start squatting at 145 or deadlift at 225 unless they want to injure themselves upfront. They would start both with an empty bar and move up slowly from there once they have the form perfect. Untrained people don’t lift actual weight. From there, most would move to a 75 pound squat and a 95-115 pound deadlift.
- geraldwhen 3y agoI’ve seen multiple teenage girls pull 405 for reps, yes. I’ve worked with highschool athletes and it’s not uncommon.
- IAmGraydon 3y agoHas it happened? Yes. Is it common? Hell no. The point is you used it as an attempt to belittle someone. Small man energy. Spend less time watching teenage girls lift on YouTube.
- geraldwhen 3y agoThe original post was spreading a gym rat myth that pulling medium weight requires eating more. It doesn’t. Most of us aren’t Brian Shaw. Most of us will never pick a thousand pounds off the ground. That’s okay. Be realistic with your goals and what it takes to reach them. To thine own self be true, you know.
- penjelly 3y ago> A teenage girl can dead 405? I bet you have a lot of friends :). i think you mean 225, my example number was not OPs starting number.
- pc86 3y agoThey're referring to https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=39334841#39335590 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=39334841#39335590 which is by the same person.
- IAmGraydon 3y agoMy comment was not to you. Read the comment history of the guy I replied to. I’m referencing another comment he made in this thread. Geraldwhen: > You need 0 bulk to pull 405. Teenage girls can do that.
- penjelly 3y agothanks my bad. i didnt see that and yeah its batshit insane
- geraldwhen 3y agohttp://usapl.liftingdatabase.com/records-default?priority=100&recordtypeid=120470&categoryid=&weightclassid= http://usapl.liftingdatabase.com/records-default?priority=10... 405 isn’t even a competitive deadlift in the upper half of weight classes for teenage girls.
- IAmGraydon 3y agoThose are record lifts, not competitive standards.
- geraldwhen 3y agoMost people have probably picked up more than that in their lives even if they’ve never seen a gym. Have you ever moved a heavy couch? 115lbs as a starting max for a man is a joke. You might put 95 on the bar to illustrate basic form, but you cannot deadlift 95 the same as 495. You’ll start rowing the barbell if you setup correctly on 95lbs just from leverage alone.