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CSS is like SQL for DOM elements. Tailwind has become popular because like SQL, CSS is powerful and hard to do well; it takes skill. Well constructed CSS is a

CSS is like SQL for DOM elements. Tailwind has become popular because like SQL, CSS is powerful and hard to do well; it takes skill. Well constructed CSS is a thing of beauty. Tailwind...not so much.

xcdzvyn 3y ago
Wow, CSS elitism is a new one. Sure, CSS is hard and Tailwind makes it easier. God forbid people choose the tool with better DX.
- CharlieDigital 3y ago
  A tool versus a toy.
deergomoo 3y ago
That's a fairly reductive take on Tailwind. The motivation isn't because CSS is hard, it's because it doesn't match how web applications are commonly built today (which makes sense; the web is still primarily a document platform we've bolted software onto). When you're structuring an application around components—where a component is an encapsulated unit of layout, style, and behaviour—it doesn't make sense to start putting those three aspects in separate places. Under that model, you typically don't want stuff inside a component to be able to affect anything outside, which is where things like Tailwind, scoped styles, and various other recent styling tools start to make a lot more sense. Now, you can argue whether or not that is a good way to build applications, but given it's how pretty much every desktop and mobile UI system works, I'm not inclined to say it's inherently wrong. It's just not a great match for the tools we have available to us on the web.
- xigoi 3y ago
  Soparation of data and style allows users to easily customize how your app looks, just like with documents. Using Tailwind is user-hostile.
  - deergomoo 3y ago
    I'm sorry but that's just not a realistic concern for a developer to have. If it works, great, but I'm not going to base the architecture of my software around the desires of the 0.001% of users who even know that user style sheets exist.
tauchunfall 3y ago
It looks like putting a list of utility CSS classes into one line is an intimidating thing of simplicity. The written Tailwind code might not be beautiful (still it tends to be simpler than well-constructed CSS), but it does not stop the resulting website from being beautiful. Well-constructed CSS does not stop one from building non-beautiful websites with beautiful code.

CSS is like SQL for DOM elements. Tailwind has become popular because like SQL, CSS is powerful and hard to do well; it takes skill. Well constructed CSS is a thing of beauty. Tailwind...not so much.

xcdzvyn 3y ago

Wow, CSS elitism is a new one. Sure, CSS is hard and Tailwind makes it easier. God forbid people choose the tool with better DX.

CharlieDigital 3y ago
A tool versus a toy.

deergomoo 3y ago

That's a fairly reductive take on Tailwind. The motivation isn't because CSS is hard, it's because it doesn't match how web applications are commonly built today (which makes sense; the web is still primarily a document platform we've bolted software onto). When you're structuring an application around components—where a component is an encapsulated unit of layout, style, and behaviour—it doesn't make sense to start putting those three aspects in separate places. Under that model, you typically don't want stuff inside a component to be able to affect anything outside, which is where things like Tailwind, scoped styles, and various other recent styling tools start to make a lot more sense. Now, you can argue whether or not that is a good way to build applications, but given it's how pretty much every desktop and mobile UI system works, I'm not inclined to say it's inherently wrong. It's just not a great match for the tools we have available to us on the web.

xigoi 3y ago
Soparation of data and style allows users to easily customize how your app looks, just like with documents. Using Tailwind is user-hostile.
- deergomoo 3y ago
  I'm sorry but that's just not a realistic concern for a developer to have. If it works, great, but I'm not going to base the architecture of my software around the desires of the 0.001% of users who even know that user style sheets exist.

tauchunfall 3y ago

It looks like putting a list of utility CSS classes into one line is an intimidating thing of simplicity. The written Tailwind code might not be beautiful (still it tends to be simpler than well-constructed CSS), but it does not stop the resulting website from being beautiful. Well-constructed CSS does not stop one from building non-beautiful websites with beautiful code.