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They're not calling 911 over VOIP, they're calling the listed local police lines[0]. >The belief that these are false 911 calls or the narratives that these ar

They're not calling 911 over VOIP, they're calling the listed local police lines[0]. >The belief that these are false 911 calls or the narratives that these are 911 calls needs to change, because they’re not calling the 911 system. They’re not able to call 911. They’re calling the main line or the visible nonemergency number listed on the internet for a lot of these police departments and these dispatches. This article explains the issue and is a good read. [0]https://nymag.com/intelligencer/2024/02/why-arent-police-doing-more-to-prevent-swatting.html https://nymag.com/intelligencer/2024/02/why-arent-police-doi...

bagels 3y ago
Replace 911 with local police lines.
- KingMob 3y ago
  911 handles multiple non-police emergency services, though. Also, 911 is way easier to remember than a full local number, and works outside your home city.
  - bagels 3y ago
    Sorry if the point wasn't clear. I meant literally substitute "local non-emergency police line" for "911" in this comment: "Lock up the people responsible at the companies allowing anonymous VOIP calls to 911" It shouldn't matter if these spoofed calls are going to 911 or to the local non-emergency line. They shouldn't be sending swat for spoofed calls from other states. The comment I was responding to seemed to imply that there's some meaningful difference that the calls are coming through the local non-emergency line. There really shouldn't be any difference in terms of what response these spoofed calls generate.
plagiarist 3y ago
I'd love to see the stats on real vs. fake reports on 911 vs. the local line, because it sounds dumb as hell to respond with SWAT to the local line. Anyway, yeah, like the other commenter mentioned, treat the local police lines the same. Actually, treat all calls to any number the same. Carriers should be required to understand provenance for every single call. All nuisance calls get fines or jail time. If the carrier cannot locate a responsible party, the carrier themselves are liable.
- bagels 3y ago
  I'd go further. If carriers are delivering these calls, they should be removed from the network.

bagels 3y ago

Replace 911 with local police lines.

KingMob 3y ago
911 handles multiple non-police emergency services, though. Also, 911 is way easier to remember than a full local number, and works outside your home city.
- bagels 3y ago
  Sorry if the point wasn't clear. I meant literally substitute "local non-emergency police line" for "911" in this comment: "Lock up the people responsible at the companies allowing anonymous VOIP calls to 911" It shouldn't matter if these spoofed calls are going to 911 or to the local non-emergency line. They shouldn't be sending swat for spoofed calls from other states. The comment I was responding to seemed to imply that there's some meaningful difference that the calls are coming through the local non-emergency line. There really shouldn't be any difference in terms of what response these spoofed calls generate.

plagiarist 3y ago

I'd love to see the stats on real vs. fake reports on 911 vs. the local line, because it sounds dumb as hell to respond with SWAT to the local line. Anyway, yeah, like the other commenter mentioned, treat the local police lines the same. Actually, treat all calls to any number the same. Carriers should be required to understand provenance for every single call. All nuisance calls get fines or jail time. If the carrier cannot locate a responsible party, the carrier themselves are liable.

bagels 3y ago
I'd go further. If carriers are delivering these calls, they should be removed from the network.