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Is swatting even close to be a problem in other countries? It really seems like something that could be solved with protocol changes. If the chance of getting t

by tokai 3y ago

Is swatting even close to be a problem in other countries? It really seems like something that could be solved with protocol changes. If the chance of getting the victim killed or inconvenienced lessens, the incentive to swat would go away.

sinuhe69 3y ago
There is no swatting problems in other countries because they don’t have SWAT! :) But seriously, the heavily militarized police is a US only phenomenon.
- aCoreyJ 3y ago
  Turns out it less necessarily when you don't have to worry about opening the door to an AR-15 or worse.
  - u320 3y ago
    That's a thing the police worries about everywhere. And not just AR-15 as the criminals typically will have way more lethal weapons.
    - defrost 3y ago
      Good police elsewhere tend to worry more about whether they have the correct address as reported, whether the correct address was reported, and whether or not the report was factual or made up to waste police time | harress people. You know, innocent victims and all that.
    - timeon 3y ago
      For 'swating'? Yes. For any other encounter? No.
- philwelch 3y ago
  Most countries have police tactical units: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_police_tactical_units https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_police_tactical_unit... France even has a national police force, the Gendarmerie, that is literally a branch of the military. The Gendarmerie’s most famous tactical unit is the GIGN, who have responded to high profile incidents including the 2015 terrorist attacks in and around Paris.
- bagels 3y ago
  The only country I've seen police wandering about with submachine guns is France. Just hanging out in the train terminal looking tough.
  - rixed 3y ago
    This is for show only. In very few occasions are they allowed to use them. Ammunition are actually stored safely away. At least that was the case few years ago. The official report about the Bataclan attacks mention such unit not being given clearance to get amo. Sounds stupid in that case, but I believe they did the maths properly when balancing the chance of armed illiterate young men in public killing innocents versus saving the day.
  - u320 3y ago
    That's not because the french police is especially militarized or anything, it's just that they are under threat. Swedish police patrolled the streets and malls with submachine guns this christmas too, it happens more than you know. Islamic terrorism is a real and ongoing thing.
- yareal 3y ago
  Other countries have heavily armed police. In some countries the military is the police. It's absolutely not a U.S. only phenomenon.
robocat 3y ago
I've been on the receiving end of a SWAT in New Zealand. It was aimed at my friend, so I don't know cause. Here we have an armed offenders squad. A mostly bizarre experience - not particularly horrible - but neither did I fully understand the risk at the time. I haven't had any hideous dealings with the police here in Christchurch - it's a small world so perhaps they are a bit more human? I certainly have lots of friends with bad stories - but often pretty damn biased stories!

by tokai 3y ago

sinuhe69 3y ago

There is no swatting problems in other countries because they don’t have SWAT! :) But seriously, the heavily militarized police is a US only phenomenon.

aCoreyJ 3y ago
Turns out it less necessarily when you don't have to worry about opening the door to an AR-15 or worse.
- u320 3y ago
  That's a thing the police worries about everywhere. And not just AR-15 as the criminals typically will have way more lethal weapons.
  - defrost 3y ago
    Good police elsewhere tend to worry more about whether they have the correct address as reported, whether the correct address was reported, and whether or not the report was factual or made up to waste police time | harress people. You know, innocent victims and all that.
  - timeon 3y ago
    For 'swating'? Yes. For any other encounter? No.
philwelch 3y ago
Most countries have police tactical units: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_police_tactical_units https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_police_tactical_unit... France even has a national police force, the Gendarmerie, that is literally a branch of the military. The Gendarmerie’s most famous tactical unit is the GIGN, who have responded to high profile incidents including the 2015 terrorist attacks in and around Paris.
bagels 3y ago
The only country I've seen police wandering about with submachine guns is France. Just hanging out in the train terminal looking tough.
- rixed 3y ago
  This is for show only. In very few occasions are they allowed to use them. Ammunition are actually stored safely away. At least that was the case few years ago. The official report about the Bataclan attacks mention such unit not being given clearance to get amo. Sounds stupid in that case, but I believe they did the maths properly when balancing the chance of armed illiterate young men in public killing innocents versus saving the day.
- u320 3y ago
  That's not because the french police is especially militarized or anything, it's just that they are under threat. Swedish police patrolled the streets and malls with submachine guns this christmas too, it happens more than you know. Islamic terrorism is a real and ongoing thing.
yareal 3y ago
Other countries have heavily armed police. In some countries the military is the police. It's absolutely not a U.S. only phenomenon.

robocat 3y ago

I've been on the receiving end of a SWAT in New Zealand. It was aimed at my friend, so I don't know cause. Here we have an armed offenders squad. A mostly bizarre experience - not particularly horrible - but neither did I fully understand the risk at the time. I haven't had any hideous dealings with the police here in Christchurch - it's a small world so perhaps they are a bit more human? I certainly have lots of friends with bad stories - but often pretty damn biased stories!