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I hear you. There's definitely a stur up going on these days. > When we go, we will take three businesses and as many of the people working for us as possible

by apsurd 3y ago

I hear you. There's definitely a stur up going on these days. > When we go, we will take three businesses and as many of the people working for us as possible out of CA. Logistically, it is far more likely that the move will happen within the US, of course. I'm replying because this is just the tiny vocal minority. California is fucking BEAUTIFUL. People will want to live here until CA breaks off and sinks into the ocean from a major earthquake. Plenty of people. It's a non-issue. disclaimer: born and raised CA kid. I hate that the West is so car centric. There's much to love about other places. But there is no place like CA.

robomartin 3y ago
> there is no place like CA. The US is a beautiful place. I would not be so bolt as to make such a categorical statement. Economically, in terms of business climate, affordability and more, CA is a dumpster fire. To the point that people at the new $15 to $20 per hour minimum wage that was supposed to solve so many problems actually have lower spending power than when they were earning at a lower rate. That should not be surprising when we pay 3x to 5x for auto licenses, 3x to 10x for auto insurance, 3x to 10x for homeowners insurance, 2x or more for gasoline, more in taxes across the board, from sales to income taxes and a bunch of little taxes on everything that just kills your money. Etc. The only way CA improves is if there's a major ideological shift that permeates the state. I cannot see that happening for decades. I think it has to sink to a very painful bottom before people actually understand. CA needs to get the "Argentina experience" before voters will understand just how dumb it is to continue to support the charlatans and crooks who have been running this state. The CA high speed rail was supposed to cost us $10 billion. We are well --way-- past $100 billion and nowhere completion. It will probably take this project another 25 years (if we are lucky), it might cost $500 billion and, if it ever really comes online, the cost per rider will be such that we could have sent everyone to the moon for less. Stupid voters. Ideologically broken crooks for politicians. Not a good combination. Time will tell. As for affordable housing. Good luck. The very idea in CA violates the laws of physics. Unless there's a serious regime change this particular issue will not improve at all. Not at scale.

by apsurd 3y ago

robomartin 3y ago

> there is no place like CA. The US is a beautiful place. I would not be so bolt as to make such a categorical statement. Economically, in terms of business climate, affordability and more, CA is a dumpster fire. To the point that people at the new $15 to $20 per hour minimum wage that was supposed to solve so many problems actually have lower spending power than when they were earning at a lower rate. That should not be surprising when we pay 3x to 5x for auto licenses, 3x to 10x for auto insurance, 3x to 10x for homeowners insurance, 2x or more for gasoline, more in taxes across the board, from sales to income taxes and a bunch of little taxes on everything that just kills your money. Etc. The only way CA improves is if there's a major ideological shift that permeates the state. I cannot see that happening for decades. I think it has to sink to a very painful bottom before people actually understand. CA needs to get the "Argentina experience" before voters will understand just how dumb it is to continue to support the charlatans and crooks who have been running this state. The CA high speed rail was supposed to cost us $10 billion. We are well --way-- past $100 billion and nowhere completion. It will probably take this project another 25 years (if we are lucky), it might cost $500 billion and, if it ever really comes online, the cost per rider will be such that we could have sent everyone to the moon for less. Stupid voters. Ideologically broken crooks for politicians. Not a good combination. Time will tell. As for affordable housing. Good luck. The very idea in CA violates the laws of physics. Unless there's a serious regime change this particular issue will not improve at all. Not at scale.