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This is just naively and ignorantly ignoring supply and demand. If everyone moved to your LCOL area costs will rise. If ever leaves the city (HCOL), city living

This is just naively and ignorantly ignoring supply and demand. If everyone moved to your LCOL area costs will rise. If ever leaves the city (HCOL), city living will decrease in cost. Not sure how your proposed solution works while also defying basic economics.

PH95VuimJjqBqy 3y ago
stop making excuses, an individual can make an individual decision or they can bitch about their situation but refuse to explore their alternatives. "oh, but market forces so I'm just going to stay here and continue posting online about how horrible it is that I'll never be able to afford a house!". You do you I guess.
- notyourwork 3y ago
  I’m not making excuses. I’m highlighting what reality is. Big cities are big because of people population. Why are a lot of people there? Because of work, lifestyle preference or both. That’s not an excuse, that is reality. I don’t want to live in the middle of no where even if the entire mortgage is less then my 20% down payment for something closer to a big city. Economics speak for themselves. Stop pretending demand for a city is artificial.
  - PH95VuimJjqBqy 3y ago
    > I don’t want to live in the middle of no where even if the entire mortgage I think you should start visiting these areas before you say that. It takes me less than 5 minutes to get to 2 different grocery stores, a theater, a market dedicated to fish, a greek restaurant, a Mediterranean bar, a mexican restaurant (very good btw), Target supercenter, Lowes, various stores dedicated to clothes, one dedicated to hobbies (not hobby lobby), and more I could go on about. In 20 minutes I can be sitting on a dock by the side of the river enjoying the breeze and fishing. In 30 minutes I can be standing at an orchard purchasing peaches, in 45 minutes I can be standing at a lake enjoying the fishing there. In the summer we have a farmers market that's probably 10 minutes away and is amazing, they generally have someone there playing music live. Which, btw, this area is _known_ for (it's independent artists). It feels like too many people here imagine LCOL means living in the middle of fields with cows milling about. rural areas are even cheaper but what you're imagining and reality do not match. It may not ultimately be what you prefer, but to call it in the middle of nowhere is just vastly ignorant. I live in a city.
    - TylerE 3y ago
      > I think you should start visiting these areas before you say that. It is precisely because I spent the first 30 years of my life in such a place that I don't want to. Beleive it or not not everyone wants a giant lawn, white picket fence and 1.8 kids in the middle of incredible blandness, unworldliness, and closemindedness.
      - PH95VuimJjqBqy 3y ago
        So your issue is emotional. I won't speak to your story but that's not been my experience and yes, this is a conservative area. I'm left leaning but have friends on both sides of the aisle and of varying religions. I did once get fired for admitting to being agnostic but I dismissed it as assholes, every area has assholes. By far most of the people I run with and encounter don't act like that.
        SauciestGNU 3y ago
        Dude you lost your job because of closed-minded bigotry and you're still confused why people might prefer to avoid those locations? For lots of people the stakes aren't being fired, they're being murdered. If you're fired for being agnostic how safe do you think a transgender person is where you are?
        PH95VuimJjqBqy 3y ago
        https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zhl9MLno424 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zhl9MLno424 go watch that and understand that conservative areas where BY FAR more supportive than New York. This is a common trope amongst youtubers and they _consistently_ find that these conservative areas are more accepting than the liberal areas such as New York. And they're more willing to speak up. But go on, explain to me why an asshole defines the entire region. I want to hear how we have more assholes and somehow can't be forgiven for that, but apparently NYC can!
        TylerE 3y ago

PH95VuimJjqBqy 3y ago

stop making excuses, an individual can make an individual decision or they can bitch about their situation but refuse to explore their alternatives. "oh, but market forces so I'm just going to stay here and continue posting online about how horrible it is that I'll never be able to afford a house!". You do you I guess.

notyourwork 3y ago
I’m not making excuses. I’m highlighting what reality is. Big cities are big because of people population. Why are a lot of people there? Because of work, lifestyle preference or both. That’s not an excuse, that is reality. I don’t want to live in the middle of no where even if the entire mortgage is less then my 20% down payment for something closer to a big city. Economics speak for themselves. Stop pretending demand for a city is artificial.
- PH95VuimJjqBqy 3y ago
  > I don’t want to live in the middle of no where even if the entire mortgage I think you should start visiting these areas before you say that. It takes me less than 5 minutes to get to 2 different grocery stores, a theater, a market dedicated to fish, a greek restaurant, a Mediterranean bar, a mexican restaurant (very good btw), Target supercenter, Lowes, various stores dedicated to clothes, one dedicated to hobbies (not hobby lobby), and more I could go on about. In 20 minutes I can be sitting on a dock by the side of the river enjoying the breeze and fishing. In 30 minutes I can be standing at an orchard purchasing peaches, in 45 minutes I can be standing at a lake enjoying the fishing there. In the summer we have a farmers market that's probably 10 minutes away and is amazing, they generally have someone there playing music live. Which, btw, this area is _known_ for (it's independent artists). It feels like too many people here imagine LCOL means living in the middle of fields with cows milling about. rural areas are even cheaper but what you're imagining and reality do not match. It may not ultimately be what you prefer, but to call it in the middle of nowhere is just vastly ignorant. I live in a city.
  - TylerE 3y ago
    > I think you should start visiting these areas before you say that. It is precisely because I spent the first 30 years of my life in such a place that I don't want to. Beleive it or not not everyone wants a giant lawn, white picket fence and 1.8 kids in the middle of incredible blandness, unworldliness, and closemindedness.
    - PH95VuimJjqBqy 3y ago
      So your issue is emotional. I won't speak to your story but that's not been my experience and yes, this is a conservative area. I'm left leaning but have friends on both sides of the aisle and of varying religions. I did once get fired for admitting to being agnostic but I dismissed it as assholes, every area has assholes. By far most of the people I run with and encounter don't act like that.
      - SauciestGNU 3y ago
        Dude you lost your job because of closed-minded bigotry and you're still confused why people might prefer to avoid those locations? For lots of people the stakes aren't being fired, they're being murdered. If you're fired for being agnostic how safe do you think a transgender person is where you are?
        PH95VuimJjqBqy 3y ago
        https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zhl9MLno424 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zhl9MLno424 go watch that and understand that conservative areas where BY FAR more supportive than New York. This is a common trope amongst youtubers and they _consistently_ find that these conservative areas are more accepting than the liberal areas such as New York. And they're more willing to speak up. But go on, explain to me why an asshole defines the entire region. I want to hear how we have more assholes and somehow can't be forgiven for that, but apparently NYC can!
        TylerE 3y ago