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> From defending Amazon's right to pay low wages to “it's easy, just quit” demonstrates the disconnection of NH people with reality to the point of full psychop

> From defending Amazon's right to pay low wages to “it's easy, just quit” demonstrates the disconnection of NH people with reality to the point of full psychopathy. You seem to be under impression that people who express this view do not have sympathy for the workers. That's not true. We just refuse to accept that an employer becomes responsible for a person's condition just because he chooses to purchase the person's labour. When you hire a plumber to fix your pipes, or buy tomatoes from a farmer, you don't become responsible for their condition. You don't have an obligation to pay higher than a market rate, or to continue paying them when you no longer want to. Why would you expect a full-time employer to have these obligations? This doesn't have anything to do with sympathy. My sympathy for the poor people drives to me donate a significant proportion of my income. But I don't have any right to force my notion on charity on other people or organisations.

throw_m239339 3y ago
> When you hire a plumber to fix your pipes, or buy tomatoes from a farmer, you don't become responsible for their condition. You don't have an obligation to pay higher than a market rate, or to continue paying them when you no longer want to. Why would you expect a full-time employer to have these obligations? You know very well these are non sequitur, absurd arguments. If the plumber dies fixing your pipes in your home, you bet your civil liability will be scrutinized. As for the rest of your arguments, the agreement is usually only about the plumber "fixing the pipe", not forcing the plumber to work 10 hours a day, or prevent them from taking more than a 15 minutes lunch break or something, You see the absurdity of your examples? You're acting like there are no differences between an individual contracting a plumber and the relationship between a megacorporation, the employees, and the obvious power imbalance between them. It's usually because you deem your interlocutor an idiot whom you can just patronize with absurd arguments.
metabagel 3y ago
> just because he chooses to purchase the person's labour This sounds like the corporation’s point of view. Most people view employment as a relationship between employer and employee which extends beyond the salary and includes a proper work environment, etc. Libertarians believe that it’s OK to treat people as badly as they allow themselves to be treated.
pram 3y ago
“When you hire a plumber to fix your pipes, you don't become responsible for their condition.” Have you never heard of premises liability?

throw_m239339 3y ago

> When you hire a plumber to fix your pipes, or buy tomatoes from a farmer, you don't become responsible for their condition. You don't have an obligation to pay higher than a market rate, or to continue paying them when you no longer want to. Why would you expect a full-time employer to have these obligations? You know very well these are non sequitur, absurd arguments. If the plumber dies fixing your pipes in your home, you bet your civil liability will be scrutinized. As for the rest of your arguments, the agreement is usually only about the plumber "fixing the pipe", not forcing the plumber to work 10 hours a day, or prevent them from taking more than a 15 minutes lunch break or something, You see the absurdity of your examples? You're acting like there are no differences between an individual contracting a plumber and the relationship between a megacorporation, the employees, and the obvious power imbalance between them. It's usually because you deem your interlocutor an idiot whom you can just patronize with absurd arguments.

metabagel 3y ago

> just because he chooses to purchase the person's labour This sounds like the corporation’s point of view. Most people view employment as a relationship between employer and employee which extends beyond the salary and includes a proper work environment, etc. Libertarians believe that it’s OK to treat people as badly as they allow themselves to be treated.

pram 3y ago

“When you hire a plumber to fix your pipes, you don't become responsible for their condition.” Have you never heard of premises liability?