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Retaliation is not common in the US. Stop spreading misinformation. Why would an HR department from any reputable organization fire you if your wife is expecti

Retaliation is not common in the US. Stop spreading misinformation. Why would an HR department from any reputable organization fire you if your wife is expecting?

markstos 3y ago
Your counterpoint that it's not common has the same level of evidence in it as the original assertion: none.
- dantheman 3y ago
  An absence of evidence for the argument against something being common is evidence.
  - metabagel 3y ago
    How would one go about finding evidence that retaliation is common in the U.S.? Sometimes, absence of evidence is because the evidence isn’t readily available.
  - kelnos 3y ago
    Evidence for what, though? An absence of evidence is perhaps evidence that someone who is asserting something is happening didn't do their homework. But an absence of evidence is certainly not evidence that something is not happening. It might be persuasive enough to allow people to reasonably believe that something is not happening. But it's not evidence of such.
SoftTalker 3y ago
IDK if it's very common but it happens, especially at smaller companies who either don't know the rules or those who have gotten away with it in the past and think they are too small to get noticed. Just recently here a restaurant was fined for not paying overtime by employing dishwashers and kitchen staff as "salaried" exempt employees. At large companies with in-house legal and HR teams? It probably doesn't happen much, but even there they will know what they can get away with.
Arn_Thor 3y ago
Retaliation is abundant in the US. What are you smoking? If a company thinks it can get away with it, it will. Saving money is more important than a hypothetical, minuscule and temporary hit to their reputation. There will always be consumers looking for a bargain at any real cost, workers desperate for a pay check, and shareholders worshipping the bottom line. That’s why we need unions
gorbachev 3y ago
This is the tech bubble talking. Most big tech companies do treat their tech workers well...warehouse workers, not so much. But for every big tech company there are thousands of smaller non-tech companies, where they do not treat employees well. Also common != majority. Just read up on how Walmart treats their employees, for example. I just read an article earlier this week about Walmart systematically under-reporting OHSA violations, and retaliating against employees reporting workplace accidents to OHSA.
rr808 3y ago
Its not "retaliation" as such, just that for many unskilled jobs having someone show up everyday is the main part of the job. If you want time off they can swap you for someone who'll be there.
kelnos 3y ago
I feel somewhat safe in believing that retaliation isn't common in tech companies (though it does happen sometimes). But I don't think I would feel safe assuming that generalizes to all jobs in the US. It wouldn't surprise me at all if there was quite a lot of exploitation and retaliation at lower-skilled, lower-income jobs in the US.

Retaliation is not common in the US. Stop spreading misinformation. Why would an HR department from any reputable organization fire you if your wife is expecting?

markstos 3y ago

Your counterpoint that it's not common has the same level of evidence in it as the original assertion: none.

dantheman 3y ago
An absence of evidence for the argument against something being common is evidence.
- metabagel 3y ago
  How would one go about finding evidence that retaliation is common in the U.S.? Sometimes, absence of evidence is because the evidence isn’t readily available.
- kelnos 3y ago
  Evidence for what, though? An absence of evidence is perhaps evidence that someone who is asserting something is happening didn't do their homework. But an absence of evidence is certainly not evidence that something is not happening. It might be persuasive enough to allow people to reasonably believe that something is not happening. But it's not evidence of such.

SoftTalker 3y ago

IDK if it's very common but it happens, especially at smaller companies who either don't know the rules or those who have gotten away with it in the past and think they are too small to get noticed. Just recently here a restaurant was fined for not paying overtime by employing dishwashers and kitchen staff as "salaried" exempt employees. At large companies with in-house legal and HR teams? It probably doesn't happen much, but even there they will know what they can get away with.

Arn_Thor 3y ago

Retaliation is abundant in the US. What are you smoking? If a company thinks it can get away with it, it will. Saving money is more important than a hypothetical, minuscule and temporary hit to their reputation. There will always be consumers looking for a bargain at any real cost, workers desperate for a pay check, and shareholders worshipping the bottom line. That’s why we need unions

gorbachev 3y ago

This is the tech bubble talking. Most big tech companies do treat their tech workers well...warehouse workers, not so much. But for every big tech company there are thousands of smaller non-tech companies, where they do not treat employees well. Also common != majority. Just read up on how Walmart treats their employees, for example. I just read an article earlier this week about Walmart systematically under-reporting OHSA violations, and retaliating against employees reporting workplace accidents to OHSA.

rr808 3y ago

Its not "retaliation" as such, just that for many unskilled jobs having someone show up everyday is the main part of the job. If you want time off they can swap you for someone who'll be there.

kelnos 3y ago

I feel somewhat safe in believing that retaliation isn't common in tech companies (though it does happen sometimes). But I don't think I would feel safe assuming that generalizes to all jobs in the US. It wouldn't surprise me at all if there was quite a lot of exploitation and retaliation at lower-skilled, lower-income jobs in the US.