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What could anyone do about it? Workers rights have never been won without a militant organized labor force. "Advocate" for your pet interests all you want, but

What could anyone do about it? Workers rights have never been won without a militant organized labor force. "Advocate" for your pet interests all you want, but you aren't accomplishing anything for anyone else unless you're organizing, and "privacy" is frankly a terrible cause to organize around and you seem to already realize that. Focus on wages, time off, and improving peoples everyday working conditions, and you will eventually get your chance to address privacy. That's just the reality of the exploitative system we live under.

freedomben 3y ago
Thanks, your comment is interesting. Just want to clarify on something as we might have different definitions/understanding. > Workers rights have never been won without a militant organized labor force. Just in the past few years, many companies have started giving generous paternal/maternal leave policies. Which militant organization brought that change about? Or would you not consider that to be workers rights? If the latter, can you give me some examples of what you consider to be workers rights so we can be on the same page?
- earthwalker99 3y ago
  >Just in the past few years, many companies have started giving generous paternal/maternal leave policies. Try passing these paternity leave policies as a law and see which side those companies are on then. You will quickly get a taste of reality. Capital loves to perform generosity when they retain the power to stop at a moment's notice and lay everybody off with no cause. The 40 hour work week was won with nothing less than years of backbreaking struggle and 4 innocent lives lost at the hands of the mitary assigned to break the strike. US workers have not won any universal workers rights in living memory. The decimation of labor unions and the CIO in the McCarthy era put an abrupt end to that. https://wikipedia.org/wiki/Pullman_Strike https://wikipedia.org/wiki/Pullman_Strike
  - pjlegato 3y ago
    > Try passing these paternity leave policies as a law These policies have been the law for many years in the United States, both at the federal level and (additionally and seperately) at the state level in nearly all states: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Parental_leave_in_the_United_States#Current_legislation https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Parental_leave_in_the_United_S...

freedomben 3y ago

Thanks, your comment is interesting. Just want to clarify on something as we might have different definitions/understanding. > Workers rights have never been won without a militant organized labor force. Just in the past few years, many companies have started giving generous paternal/maternal leave policies. Which militant organization brought that change about? Or would you not consider that to be workers rights? If the latter, can you give me some examples of what you consider to be workers rights so we can be on the same page?

earthwalker99 3y ago
>Just in the past few years, many companies have started giving generous paternal/maternal leave policies. Try passing these paternity leave policies as a law and see which side those companies are on then. You will quickly get a taste of reality. Capital loves to perform generosity when they retain the power to stop at a moment's notice and lay everybody off with no cause. The 40 hour work week was won with nothing less than years of backbreaking struggle and 4 innocent lives lost at the hands of the mitary assigned to break the strike. US workers have not won any universal workers rights in living memory. The decimation of labor unions and the CIO in the McCarthy era put an abrupt end to that. https://wikipedia.org/wiki/Pullman_Strike https://wikipedia.org/wiki/Pullman_Strike
- pjlegato 3y ago
  > Try passing these paternity leave policies as a law These policies have been the law for many years in the United States, both at the federal level and (additionally and seperately) at the state level in nearly all states: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Parental_leave_in_the_United_States#Current_legislation https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Parental_leave_in_the_United_S...