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Do we just call all of statistics "AI" now? I fail to see how or why applying basic machine learning techniques for data analysis is "artificial intelligence".

Do we just call all of statistics "AI" now? I fail to see how or why applying basic machine learning techniques for data analysis is "artificial intelligence". This idea that intellection is nothing more than pattern matching is silly and needs to die. Conceptual understanding entails more than just pattern matching.

csa 3y ago
AI is one of many headline buzzwords these days that get an outsized number of clicks relative to the content, right along with Tesla, Trump, Taylor Swift and probably a few others.
freedomben 3y ago
Relevant XKCD: https://xkcd.com/435/ https://xkcd.com/435/ Sentiment analysis may ultimately just be "statistics" but IMHO it goes way beyond what most people consider statistics, which is collecting, organizing, graphing data. Sentiment analysis draws conclusions from the data, assigning things like "level of negativity" and "level of positivity" among other things. It definitely feels like an artificial type of thing that humans do, so artificial intelligence seems like a reasonable category to me.
vrc 3y ago
Historically ML is a sub field within the study of AI. So are a lot of even more mundane techniques. So, if the hit word to describe things is AI, and the shoe fits, wear it!
electroly 3y ago
The AI part is the sentiment analysis of the chat message text and pictures. They're using statistics on the resulting aggregate data. This seems pretty reasonable to me. ML is roughly a gazillion times better than traditional NLP techniques for sentiment analysis. If you're doing sentiment analysis without ML in 2024 then you need to stop and reevaluate what you're doing. If you simply wanted to complain that they're using "AI" to describe something that uses ML, please tell me so I can move along. Nothing interesting there to discuss.
- jmknoll 3y ago
  Did you mean to write LLMs instead of ML? Aren't traditional NLP techniques a subfield of ML?
  - jeffnappi 3y ago
    There's overlap, but many traditional NLP techniques are heuristics based. Here's an example: https://github.com/cjhutto/vaderSentiment https://github.com/cjhutto/vaderSentiment
- sigsegv420 3y ago
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horacemorace 3y ago
Do you call all of LLMs “statistics”? I fail to see how anyone who has studied and worked with these systems could fail to see how they exhibit behavior of conceptual understanding.
delfinom 3y ago
It's a mandatory buzzword for investment in 2024 since everything else has been milked to death already. I've seen companies go back and slap "AI" on things that have been out for 15 years.
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sambull 3y ago
If you want to close your funding round.. yes

csa 3y ago

AI is one of many headline buzzwords these days that get an outsized number of clicks relative to the content, right along with Tesla, Trump, Taylor Swift and probably a few others.

freedomben 3y ago

Relevant XKCD: https://xkcd.com/435/ https://xkcd.com/435/ Sentiment analysis may ultimately just be "statistics" but IMHO it goes way beyond what most people consider statistics, which is collecting, organizing, graphing data. Sentiment analysis draws conclusions from the data, assigning things like "level of negativity" and "level of positivity" among other things. It definitely feels like an artificial type of thing that humans do, so artificial intelligence seems like a reasonable category to me.

vrc 3y ago

Historically ML is a sub field within the study of AI. So are a lot of even more mundane techniques. So, if the hit word to describe things is AI, and the shoe fits, wear it!

electroly 3y ago

The AI part is the sentiment analysis of the chat message text and pictures. They're using statistics on the resulting aggregate data. This seems pretty reasonable to me. ML is roughly a gazillion times better than traditional NLP techniques for sentiment analysis. If you're doing sentiment analysis without ML in 2024 then you need to stop and reevaluate what you're doing. If you simply wanted to complain that they're using "AI" to describe something that uses ML, please tell me so I can move along. Nothing interesting there to discuss.

jmknoll 3y ago
Did you mean to write LLMs instead of ML? Aren't traditional NLP techniques a subfield of ML?
- jeffnappi 3y ago
  There's overlap, but many traditional NLP techniques are heuristics based. Here's an example: https://github.com/cjhutto/vaderSentiment https://github.com/cjhutto/vaderSentiment
sigsegv420 3y ago
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horacemorace 3y ago

Do you call all of LLMs “statistics”? I fail to see how anyone who has studied and worked with these systems could fail to see how they exhibit behavior of conceptual understanding.

delfinom 3y ago

It's a mandatory buzzword for investment in 2024 since everything else has been milked to death already. I've seen companies go back and slap "AI" on things that have been out for 15 years.

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sambull 3y ago

If you want to close your funding round.. yes