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Miami? I was impressed with Miami when I visited. Lots of high rise residential housing, sane political governance, nice downtown, and pretty walkable.

Keyframe 3y ago
Well, there's weather though.
forthwall 3y ago
Miami is walkable in some parts, I personally feel it’s as walkable as LA, walkable neighborhoods but big moats between them (not just the bridges)
- homefree 3y ago
  Yeah, though I think Bay Area is similar - LA is huge and more equivalent to compare to Bay Area (SF + Oakland + Peninsula + San Jose), than just SF itself. Also more comparable populations that way too.
  - forthwall 3y ago
    To be clear; what I mean LA as in LA city not the county. LA and Miami are similar in they have some neighborhoods that are walkable (the most popular parts), but the majority of them are not and they’re not very walkable between the two. Little Tokyo is walkable but then there’s a gap between there and downtown, then you have a huge Hollywood stretch then a huge gap around ktown if you go between them. Miami has the same issue, Brickell is walkable but as soon as you leave it has a bunch of impassable areas to go to downtown, same as if you were to leave wynwood. The worst part of Miami city’s unwalkability is once you leave those neighborhoods it pedestrian hostile like Shendahdoah or Little Havana. SF and NYC do have neighborhoods like this, but those occupy very tiny portions of those cities comparably to Miami.
alephnerd 3y ago
It's almost impossible to use public transit outside of Brickell. Miami-Dade is very sprawly, like Los Angeles. This is unsurprising as Miami is a relatively new city that expanded post-WW2, like LA. The cities I listed above were already fairly high density before the automobile was invented
- homefree 3y ago
  I explored Brickell and Miami Beach, comparing to LA is unfair imo, that’s like comparing to “Bay Area” instead of SF.
  - alephnerd 3y ago
    Your right. It's even worse than LA. The LA metro has better connectivity across the city of LA than Miami Metrorail does in Miami. > I explored Brickell and Miami Beach Did you walk or take public transit to Little Havana or Little Haiti?
tipsydoo 3y ago
IIRC Miami was the worst on a list put together by CityNerd of large cities with a high (housing+transit)/income ratio. I can't access YT at the moment so feel free to correct.

Keyframe 3y ago

Well, there's weather though.

forthwall 3y ago

Miami is walkable in some parts, I personally feel it’s as walkable as LA, walkable neighborhoods but big moats between them (not just the bridges)

homefree 3y ago
Yeah, though I think Bay Area is similar - LA is huge and more equivalent to compare to Bay Area (SF + Oakland + Peninsula + San Jose), than just SF itself. Also more comparable populations that way too.
- forthwall 3y ago
  To be clear; what I mean LA as in LA city not the county. LA and Miami are similar in they have some neighborhoods that are walkable (the most popular parts), but the majority of them are not and they’re not very walkable between the two. Little Tokyo is walkable but then there’s a gap between there and downtown, then you have a huge Hollywood stretch then a huge gap around ktown if you go between them. Miami has the same issue, Brickell is walkable but as soon as you leave it has a bunch of impassable areas to go to downtown, same as if you were to leave wynwood. The worst part of Miami city’s unwalkability is once you leave those neighborhoods it pedestrian hostile like Shendahdoah or Little Havana. SF and NYC do have neighborhoods like this, but those occupy very tiny portions of those cities comparably to Miami.

alephnerd 3y ago

It's almost impossible to use public transit outside of Brickell. Miami-Dade is very sprawly, like Los Angeles. This is unsurprising as Miami is a relatively new city that expanded post-WW2, like LA. The cities I listed above were already fairly high density before the automobile was invented

homefree 3y ago
I explored Brickell and Miami Beach, comparing to LA is unfair imo, that’s like comparing to “Bay Area” instead of SF.
- alephnerd 3y ago
  Your right. It's even worse than LA. The LA metro has better connectivity across the city of LA than Miami Metrorail does in Miami. > I explored Brickell and Miami Beach Did you walk or take public transit to Little Havana or Little Haiti?

tipsydoo 3y ago

IIRC Miami was the worst on a list put together by CityNerd of large cities with a high (housing+transit)/income ratio. I can't access YT at the moment so feel free to correct.