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Ruby on the Apple II (2019) [video]

68 points by nf3 3y ago

glimshe 3y ago
Pointless, time waste, unnecessary. I love it!
- karmakaze 3y ago
  Me too, all the while knowing that Retro Computing may give TFW "Your friend goes steampunk"--carrying a thing too far. I can't seem to find an NRuby repo. I suppose the 256 object limit was too impractical, even given the impractical premise. There is one for the presenter app[0] in 6502 assembly. [0] https://github.com/justcolin/fruity_asm_presenter https://github.com/justcolin/fruity_asm_presenter
backspace_ 3y ago
Pretty cool. Can the Apple II run rust?
- ksherlock 3y ago
  rust the compiler, hell no. But there is an llvm-mos project to generate 6502 code and that can be used to cross compile rust code. https://llvm-mos.org/wiki/Welcome https://llvm-mos.org/wiki/Welcome https://llvm-mos.org/wiki/Rust https://llvm-mos.org/wiki/Rust https://github.com/mrk-its/rust-mos https://github.com/mrk-its/rust-mos
- phplovesong 3y ago
  Rust? Can it run crysis?
LeonardoTolstoy 3y ago
I suppose coincidentally I just got my old IIc from my dad. Pretty fun. Just kind of working out how best to backup the disks I got, so the journey is just beginning. Maybe eventually I'll get around to making a game or doing something weird like this. Great talk.
DonHopkins 3y ago
Design a byte code like Sweet 16 or UCSD Pascal, and compile Ruby to that. It would certainly be more space/time efficient than Manx Aztec C, which was terrible. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aztec_C https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aztec_C Hilarious discussion on the talk page -- I used Aztec C but I have not vanished yet: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Aztec_C#WHO_vanished%3F https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Aztec_C#WHO_vanished%3F I had a Legend Industries 128KDE memory expansion card on my Apple ][+ -- that would help! Washington Apple PI, January 1982, p. 12, "I CAN'T REMEMBER HOW MUCH MEMORY I HAVE" by David Morganstein: https://www.wap.org/journal/showcase/washingtonapplepijournal1982v4no1jan82.pdf https://www.wap.org/journal/showcase/washingtonapplepijourna...
- colanderman 3y ago
  .NET/MSIL is actually somewhat reasonable. I'm working on a loader+interpreter for the //e right now.
ufmace 3y ago
This is very cool. I wonder how much of Ruby was actually implemented. Obviously a few things work, but I'm pretty sure you'd never get regex and hashtables and all the other piles of complex stuff in the standard lib working under those constraints.

68 points by nf3 3y ago

glimshe 3y ago

Pointless, time waste, unnecessary. I love it!

karmakaze 3y ago
Me too, all the while knowing that Retro Computing may give TFW "Your friend goes steampunk"--carrying a thing too far. I can't seem to find an NRuby repo. I suppose the 256 object limit was too impractical, even given the impractical premise. There is one for the presenter app[0] in 6502 assembly. [0] https://github.com/justcolin/fruity_asm_presenter https://github.com/justcolin/fruity_asm_presenter

backspace_ 3y ago

Pretty cool. Can the Apple II run rust?

ksherlock 3y ago
rust the compiler, hell no. But there is an llvm-mos project to generate 6502 code and that can be used to cross compile rust code. https://llvm-mos.org/wiki/Welcome https://llvm-mos.org/wiki/Welcome https://llvm-mos.org/wiki/Rust https://llvm-mos.org/wiki/Rust https://github.com/mrk-its/rust-mos https://github.com/mrk-its/rust-mos
phplovesong 3y ago
Rust? Can it run crysis?

LeonardoTolstoy 3y ago

I suppose coincidentally I just got my old IIc from my dad. Pretty fun. Just kind of working out how best to backup the disks I got, so the journey is just beginning. Maybe eventually I'll get around to making a game or doing something weird like this. Great talk.

DonHopkins 3y ago

Design a byte code like Sweet 16 or UCSD Pascal, and compile Ruby to that. It would certainly be more space/time efficient than Manx Aztec C, which was terrible. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aztec_C https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aztec_C Hilarious discussion on the talk page -- I used Aztec C but I have not vanished yet: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Aztec_C#WHO_vanished%3F https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Aztec_C#WHO_vanished%3F I had a Legend Industries 128KDE memory expansion card on my Apple ][+ -- that would help! Washington Apple PI, January 1982, p. 12, "I CAN'T REMEMBER HOW MUCH MEMORY I HAVE" by David Morganstein: https://www.wap.org/journal/showcase/washingtonapplepijournal1982v4no1jan82.pdf https://www.wap.org/journal/showcase/washingtonapplepijourna...

colanderman 3y ago
.NET/MSIL is actually somewhat reasonable. I'm working on a loader+interpreter for the //e right now.

ufmace 3y ago

This is very cool. I wonder how much of Ruby was actually implemented. Obviously a few things work, but I'm pretty sure you'd never get regex and hashtables and all the other piles of complex stuff in the standard lib working under those constraints.