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The Soviet Union invaded Poland from the east and ruled there with terror, mass-killings and deportations. "back under soviet control" means that the SU was tak

by _19qg 3y ago

The Soviet Union invaded Poland from the east and ruled there with terror, mass-killings and deportations. "back under soviet control" means that the SU was taking the opportunity to conquer parts of Poland in an undeclared war, working together with Nazi Germany. Sure that it also exploited local conflicts.

somenameforme 3y ago
You won't find too many arguments from me here. Stalin was the absolute embodiment of Machiavellianism, which I loathe with a passion like none other. The inevitability of people like him in politics are the reason I think overly centralized political systems are doomed to failure, sooner or later. Had he not been the main reason Nazism was defeated, I think his legacy, as colored as it already is, would have been very different. But, on the other hand, the importance of and the sacrifices suffered in the defeat of Nazism cannot be overstated. Such is history that sometimes great people do awful things, and sometimes awful people do great things.
- _19qg 3y ago
  Nothing about the war in the Ukraine is great, not Putin, not the "things". There is only the will of the people of the Ukraine to defend their country. Putin was (and is) too dumb to see this. Nothing about the war against Poland was great. Putin is an aggressor and he even tried to justify his history view with Poland/Germany from 1939. From the interview: "Hitler asked them to give it amicably, but they refused." That's complete nonsense, Hitler had very different motives and Poland knew that it was not "amicably". What is disturbing, is that Putin compares his own motives to attack the Ukraine to the German/Polish situation in 1939, where we see Putin siding in his arguments with Hitler. That's completely crazy. Hitler had all staged this, back then, to conquer Poland and follow his long-term goals & plans (-> kill the jews, enslave east europe). Putin reverses the attacker and the victim.

by _19qg 3y ago

somenameforme 3y ago

You won't find too many arguments from me here. Stalin was the absolute embodiment of Machiavellianism, which I loathe with a passion like none other. The inevitability of people like him in politics are the reason I think overly centralized political systems are doomed to failure, sooner or later. Had he not been the main reason Nazism was defeated, I think his legacy, as colored as it already is, would have been very different. But, on the other hand, the importance of and the sacrifices suffered in the defeat of Nazism cannot be overstated. Such is history that sometimes great people do awful things, and sometimes awful people do great things.

_19qg 3y ago
Nothing about the war in the Ukraine is great, not Putin, not the "things". There is only the will of the people of the Ukraine to defend their country. Putin was (and is) too dumb to see this. Nothing about the war against Poland was great. Putin is an aggressor and he even tried to justify his history view with Poland/Germany from 1939. From the interview: "Hitler asked them to give it amicably, but they refused." That's complete nonsense, Hitler had very different motives and Poland knew that it was not "amicably". What is disturbing, is that Putin compares his own motives to attack the Ukraine to the German/Polish situation in 1939, where we see Putin siding in his arguments with Hitler. That's completely crazy. Hitler had all staged this, back then, to conquer Poland and follow his long-term goals & plans (-> kill the jews, enslave east europe). Putin reverses the attacker and the victim.