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Just to clarify: the "we" who would like to join is a government that was installed by the USA in a coup. What kind of "attacking and oppressing" happened befo

Just to clarify: the "we" who would like to join is a government that was installed by the USA in a coup. What kind of "attacking and oppressing" happened before the coup?

jnsaff2 3y ago
So Finland and Sweden have governments "installed by USA in a coup"?
- khzw8yyy 3y ago
  That's just being obtuse to be obtuse. You and I both understand the difference between the choices that Finland or Sweden made and the "choices" that Ukraine or Iraq made.
  - jnsaff2 3y ago
    So Ukraine can’t have choices without russians getting all murderous about it but it’s fine when Finns and Swedes do?
    - khzw8yyy 3y ago
      If a political party came to power in Finland or Sweden outside the normal electoral process and decided to align the country with Russia, would the EU and the USA call them usurpers and terrorists and start military intervention to liberate Finland or Sweden? Or would they not?
      - jnsaff2 3y ago
        The only one who started the military intervention here is russia. russia attacked Ukraine. Ukrainians had enough of kremlin puppets.
        khzw8yyy 3y ago
        This is relevant how? I asked about a hypothetical scenario: would the USA violently suppress a Pro-Russia Party of Finland. That seems to have caused a crash and you fell back to your default rhetoric.
        jnsaff2 3y ago
        No. Vatnik said: > Just to clarify: the "we" who would like to join is a government that was installed by the USA in a coup. What kind of "attacking and oppressing" happened before the coup?
        khzw8yyy 3y ago
        And the Yank said that only the US of A gets to have anything to do with geopolitics because "we are just better that's why". Oh, and "because all my life I've been told Russians are evil". Putin is unfortunately right, you understand only one kind of argument.
        jnsaff2 3y ago
        Living in a country that was occupied by russians and gets constant threats by russians to be invaded again. Being in NATO and EU is the best available security guarantee. No one needs to tell me russians are evil. It’s just something you pick up living next to russia. Also your threat “putin was right” proves that you are, in fact, evil.
        khzw8yyy 3y ago
        It's more about frustration with hypocrisy than being evil. When your friends kill in Gaza - "that's different", that's freedom, it's for democracy. It's not like the West shies away from cruelty when advancing its interests. You just choose to be blind to the brutality, that's all.
        3y ago

Just to clarify: the "we" who would like to join is a government that was installed by the USA in a coup. What kind of "attacking and oppressing" happened before the coup?

jnsaff2 3y ago

So Finland and Sweden have governments "installed by USA in a coup"?

khzw8yyy 3y ago
That's just being obtuse to be obtuse. You and I both understand the difference between the choices that Finland or Sweden made and the "choices" that Ukraine or Iraq made.
- jnsaff2 3y ago
  So Ukraine can’t have choices without russians getting all murderous about it but it’s fine when Finns and Swedes do?
  - khzw8yyy 3y ago
    If a political party came to power in Finland or Sweden outside the normal electoral process and decided to align the country with Russia, would the EU and the USA call them usurpers and terrorists and start military intervention to liberate Finland or Sweden? Or would they not?
    - jnsaff2 3y ago
      The only one who started the military intervention here is russia. russia attacked Ukraine. Ukrainians had enough of kremlin puppets.
      - khzw8yyy 3y ago
        This is relevant how? I asked about a hypothetical scenario: would the USA violently suppress a Pro-Russia Party of Finland. That seems to have caused a crash and you fell back to your default rhetoric.
        jnsaff2 3y ago
        No. Vatnik said: > Just to clarify: the "we" who would like to join is a government that was installed by the USA in a coup. What kind of "attacking and oppressing" happened before the coup?
        khzw8yyy 3y ago
        And the Yank said that only the US of A gets to have anything to do with geopolitics because "we are just better that's why". Oh, and "because all my life I've been told Russians are evil". Putin is unfortunately right, you understand only one kind of argument.
        jnsaff2 3y ago
        Living in a country that was occupied by russians and gets constant threats by russians to be invaded again. Being in NATO and EU is the best available security guarantee. No one needs to tell me russians are evil. It’s just something you pick up living next to russia. Also your threat “putin was right” proves that you are, in fact, evil.
        khzw8yyy 3y ago
        It's more about frustration with hypocrisy than being evil. When your friends kill in Gaza - "that's different", that's freedom, it's for democracy. It's not like the West shies away from cruelty when advancing its interests. You just choose to be blind to the brutality, that's all.
        3y ago