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It's a Kodak moment. This praise comes from the Heritage Foundation, a conservative think tank that does not support alternatives to reliance on the oil indust

It's a Kodak moment. This praise comes from the Heritage Foundation, a conservative think tank that does not support alternatives to reliance on the oil industry.

jki275 3y ago
Your characterization of the Heritage Foundation's position on energy is not really accurate or supportable. At the very least they have several articles on their site supporting nuclear energy. https://www.heritage.org/energy/commentary/time-bring-nuclear-energy-the-21st-century https://www.heritage.org/energy/commentary/time-bring-nuclea...
- dpkirchner 3y ago
  There's folks that suggest nuclear energy is promoted not as an alternative to fossil fuels (because it won't actually be built, at least not in sufficient quantity any time soon) but as a way to discourage wind and PV and thus tacitly support the status quo. https://www.commondreams.org/news/triple-nuclear-power-cop28 https://www.commondreams.org/news/triple-nuclear-power-cop28 Of course, this is just one opinion battling another.
- nebula8804 3y ago
  I guess they know that nuclear is a failed proposition in the US (and everywhere except China) so they can redirect focus from renewables into chasing this bridge to nowhere.
- charred_patina 3y ago
  > Denying the world access to clean, affordable fuels like gas, oil, and coal is a real problem. This is literally the second sentence of that article.
TheLoafOfBread 3y ago
BEVs are more like 3DTV moment. It looks good on paper, but is annoying to use.
- fignews 3y ago
  Starting with a full tank each morning is the opposite of annoying to use. Having to go out of my way to a gas station to pay more per mile is the annoying thing.
  - TheLoafOfBread 3y ago
    Not the case if you are living in an apartment. More than 50% people in EU are living in apartments. They then need to charge for hour on public chargers and pay for charge more than for equivalent in gas.
    - fignews 3y ago
      Who said anything about houses? An apartment dweller can have a power outlet installed at their parking spot. For people that have to endure street parking lantern charging is becoming more and more prevalent. Back when I didn’t have a private charging I would charge while doing my grocery shopping. Of course there’s always work charging. Back in the day luddites also pointed out the lack of gasoline infrastructure. A horse is much less annoying obviously.
      - TheLoafOfBread 3y ago
        That's fairy tale thinking. Commie blocks in Eastern Europe won't get torn down and they have 1 parking space per 3 apartments. How is it going to work there? Some people live in houses in former "worker colonies" built in 19th century during industrialization. They don't have place to park either so they are parking wherever it is possible. So your scenario is not going to work.

It's a Kodak moment. This praise comes from the Heritage Foundation, a conservative think tank that does not support alternatives to reliance on the oil industry.

jki275 3y ago

Your characterization of the Heritage Foundation's position on energy is not really accurate or supportable. At the very least they have several articles on their site supporting nuclear energy. https://www.heritage.org/energy/commentary/time-bring-nuclear-energy-the-21st-century https://www.heritage.org/energy/commentary/time-bring-nuclea...

dpkirchner 3y ago
There's folks that suggest nuclear energy is promoted not as an alternative to fossil fuels (because it won't actually be built, at least not in sufficient quantity any time soon) but as a way to discourage wind and PV and thus tacitly support the status quo. https://www.commondreams.org/news/triple-nuclear-power-cop28 https://www.commondreams.org/news/triple-nuclear-power-cop28 Of course, this is just one opinion battling another.
nebula8804 3y ago
I guess they know that nuclear is a failed proposition in the US (and everywhere except China) so they can redirect focus from renewables into chasing this bridge to nowhere.
charred_patina 3y ago
> Denying the world access to clean, affordable fuels like gas, oil, and coal is a real problem. This is literally the second sentence of that article.

TheLoafOfBread 3y ago

BEVs are more like 3DTV moment. It looks good on paper, but is annoying to use.

fignews 3y ago
Starting with a full tank each morning is the opposite of annoying to use. Having to go out of my way to a gas station to pay more per mile is the annoying thing.
- TheLoafOfBread 3y ago
  Not the case if you are living in an apartment. More than 50% people in EU are living in apartments. They then need to charge for hour on public chargers and pay for charge more than for equivalent in gas.
  - fignews 3y ago
    Who said anything about houses? An apartment dweller can have a power outlet installed at their parking spot. For people that have to endure street parking lantern charging is becoming more and more prevalent. Back when I didn’t have a private charging I would charge while doing my grocery shopping. Of course there’s always work charging. Back in the day luddites also pointed out the lack of gasoline infrastructure. A horse is much less annoying obviously.
    - TheLoafOfBread 3y ago
      That's fairy tale thinking. Commie blocks in Eastern Europe won't get torn down and they have 1 parking space per 3 apartments. How is it going to work there? Some people live in houses in former "worker colonies" built in 19th century during industrialization. They don't have place to park either so they are parking wherever it is possible. So your scenario is not going to work.