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We moved from Trello to Linear and it's been fantastic. I hope to never work at an organisation large enough for JIRA to be a good idea.

CSMastermind 3y ago
To be fair Linear does strike me as everything everyone always hoped Trello would be. So if that's the upgrade path you're going down I'd expect it to be fantastic.
cqqxo4zV46cp 3y ago
Newer (aka next gen aka Team-managed) Jira projects are pretty solid.
- FridgeSeal 3y ago
  Do jira pages still take 30 seconds to load, and have all the interaction speed of cold molasses? Does it have nice keyboard shortcuts yet? Do I still need to perform an arcane ritual of setup to get the ticket statuses to be what I want? Linear has been such a breath of fresh air, with such a solid desktop app (on Mac OS) that I don’t ever want to go back. Stuff happens instantly, the layout and semantics are an excellent “90% good enough” that I would happily relegate jira to only the most enterprise of enterprise projects.
  - coffeebeqn 3y ago
    At one of the bigger companies I was at we had an on-prem JIRA in the same office building and it was still so slow that I would often forget why I was loading that page
  - Cacti 3y ago
    trigger warning please on the Jira stuff
  - crabmusket 3y ago
    Linear is making (fairly) good on the promises of local-first software. As opposed to "every click is a round trip to the server" software.
  - mjfisher 3y ago
    No, Jira loading is relatively OK and on par with other SPAs. It's got a CTRL+SHIFT+P style actions menu for tickets which helps cut down on point and click pain (especially for linking issues etc). Setting up statues and workflows and how they map to a board is relatively straightforward. There are lots of things where Jira falls short, but the pain points on an under-resourced self hosted instance of ten years ago are nothing like the ones you'll find on Jira cloud today.
    - aniforprez 3y ago
      Does Jira still have multiple flavours of markdown for different fields and editors? Last I used it, it used a different flavour for creating and editing a ticket. Also another flavour for bitbucket. None of these were compatible and it would convert between them in the backend but I was left confused every time when I would have to switch formatting styles
      - mjfisher 3y ago
        I remember that from a while back, and getting annoyed - it doesn't appear to be something that annoys me at the moment so it might have been fixed, but on reflection I tend to just use the default rich text editor now. It takes markdownish input but converts it to rich text as you type - so asterisk-space starts a bullet point list, etc. I actually can't remember if it has a dedicated markdown mode anymore; the rich text editing supports the usual shortcuts that mean I tend to stick with it.

CSMastermind 3y ago

To be fair Linear does strike me as everything everyone always hoped Trello would be. So if that's the upgrade path you're going down I'd expect it to be fantastic.

cqqxo4zV46cp 3y ago

Newer (aka next gen aka Team-managed) Jira projects are pretty solid.

FridgeSeal 3y ago
Do jira pages still take 30 seconds to load, and have all the interaction speed of cold molasses? Does it have nice keyboard shortcuts yet? Do I still need to perform an arcane ritual of setup to get the ticket statuses to be what I want? Linear has been such a breath of fresh air, with such a solid desktop app (on Mac OS) that I don’t ever want to go back. Stuff happens instantly, the layout and semantics are an excellent “90% good enough” that I would happily relegate jira to only the most enterprise of enterprise projects.
- coffeebeqn 3y ago
  At one of the bigger companies I was at we had an on-prem JIRA in the same office building and it was still so slow that I would often forget why I was loading that page
- Cacti 3y ago
  trigger warning please on the Jira stuff
- crabmusket 3y ago
  Linear is making (fairly) good on the promises of local-first software. As opposed to "every click is a round trip to the server" software.
- mjfisher 3y ago
  No, Jira loading is relatively OK and on par with other SPAs. It's got a CTRL+SHIFT+P style actions menu for tickets which helps cut down on point and click pain (especially for linking issues etc). Setting up statues and workflows and how they map to a board is relatively straightforward. There are lots of things where Jira falls short, but the pain points on an under-resourced self hosted instance of ten years ago are nothing like the ones you'll find on Jira cloud today.
  - aniforprez 3y ago
    Does Jira still have multiple flavours of markdown for different fields and editors? Last I used it, it used a different flavour for creating and editing a ticket. Also another flavour for bitbucket. None of these were compatible and it would convert between them in the backend but I was left confused every time when I would have to switch formatting styles
    - mjfisher 3y ago
      I remember that from a while back, and getting annoyed - it doesn't appear to be something that annoys me at the moment so it might have been fixed, but on reflection I tend to just use the default rich text editor now. It takes markdownish input but converts it to rich text as you type - so asterisk-space starts a bullet point list, etc. I actually can't remember if it has a dedicated markdown mode anymore; the rich text editing supports the usual shortcuts that mean I tend to stick with it.