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Is there another way?

by bla3 3y ago

Astraco 3y ago
Yes, a lot of them.
Fnoord 3y ago
Of course there is. As a parent (no matter your gender) you have the legal responsibility to take care of your children until adult age. On the double for young children, such as a baby. This is priority #1 in your life. I was just ill half of January (some seasonal cold/flu/whatever) and even then this is priority over resting. A baby needs attention, food, drink, clean diapers, sleep, hugs/massage (vs tummy cramps), safety (parent available). Furthermore, you and your significant other are a team of caregivers. You need to act like a team player ie. communicate and propose. Yes, you can have leisure time (tho not much with a newborn in my experience, it already gets better with a baby) but it is about giving and taking, balance between family, work, and fun. For example, he could use the device one hour a day. It would've just been a longer project, or less extensive. Anyway, I just brush it off as tough boy talk. He did communicate and work it out with his significant other and she agreed. Not in the sense he said I am unavailable for a week good luck with your life see you in a week.
- wernercd 3y ago
  "priority #1" and as part of his priority? making money to pay the bills. While wife takes care of the kid. People around the world and throughout history sacrifice for their kids... we should all be so lucky. He's able to sacrifice from the comfort of home... some sacrifice in coal mines or on oil rigs or on long commutes to long days in factories. Complaining that dad has to work to provide is a first world problem.
  - Fnoord 3y ago
    I don't see his time with this headset as work but as fun/play. I guess we disagree on that.
    - sokoloff 3y ago
      This is how he makes his income, is it not? I really enjoy programming and find it fun/engaging. It’s still work, because it’s how I earn money. Other people work as tour guides or travel writers. Do you see what they do as playing around traveling or as work?
      - Fnoord 3y ago
        I'm not sure he makes his income with writing reviews like this? Sure, you could make your hobby a job. But if they experiment with a device like this to see if it enhances their work it is kinda like the 80/20 rule at Google. It could turn out productive, inspiring. But I wouldn't want to bet on it. It wouldn't be the main task of his job.
        sokoloff 3y ago
        Even the 20 part of Google work is work, IMO, whether it turns out to be productive/inspiring/useful.
    - wernercd 3y ago
      I work as a computer programmer. I sit behind a desk and I have fun solving problems... while getting paid to use technology. You may not see it as work... but the guy is literally getting paid for it. No offense but it doesn't matter what you see or what you think you see - what matters is what's really happening. And what's really happening is this guy has gotten REALLY lucky: He's got a job where he can have "fun/play" doing something that pays his bills. That doesn't make his "sacrifice" anything less because it's enjoyable (sacrificing time with wife/kid(s)). It makes his sacrifice enjoyable but he still has to make the same sacrifice that parents around the world make on the daily. I guess I'd ask you honestly... do you see professional streamers or gaming streamers as working? Destiny, Vaush, Asmond Gold, pewdiepie, etc? I know streamers that spend 12 hours a day online engaging in content to make money - and a few of them have kid(s). They are having fun and making money while working their asses off to better their lives and, presumably, their families lives. They aren't slaving in a coal mine or sitting with dead looks in their eyes in a cubicle but they are making money and ends meet. Just because they are lucky (and work their asses off) doesn't mean they aren't also sacrificing. But I digress. I'm lucky enough to love what I do as well so I think the fact this guy can provide for his family by playing with toy is fucking awesome.
- techdmn 3y ago
  I agree with everything you said. It's played for laughs, but it's a misogynistic joke about men having all the power and women having all the responsibility for child rearing. We can do better.
- walteweiss 3y ago
  I just love how downvoted you are! Really shows the true hn crowd, the kids themselves.
  - CatWChainsaw 3y ago
    Kids that probably have an over-representation of Y chromosomes and swollen egos, so it tracks.

Is there another way?

by bla3 3y ago

Is there another way?

Astraco 3y ago

Yes, a lot of them.

Fnoord 3y ago

Of course there is. As a parent (no matter your gender) you have the legal responsibility to take care of your children until adult age. On the double for young children, such as a baby. This is priority #1 in your life. I was just ill half of January (some seasonal cold/flu/whatever) and even then this is priority over resting. A baby needs attention, food, drink, clean diapers, sleep, hugs/massage (vs tummy cramps), safety (parent available). Furthermore, you and your significant other are a team of caregivers. You need to act like a team player ie. communicate and propose. Yes, you can have leisure time (tho not much with a newborn in my experience, it already gets better with a baby) but it is about giving and taking, balance between family, work, and fun. For example, he could use the device one hour a day. It would've just been a longer project, or less extensive. Anyway, I just brush it off as tough boy talk. He did communicate and work it out with his significant other and she agreed. Not in the sense he said I am unavailable for a week good luck with your life see you in a week.

wernercd 3y ago
"priority #1" and as part of his priority? making money to pay the bills. While wife takes care of the kid. People around the world and throughout history sacrifice for their kids... we should all be so lucky. He's able to sacrifice from the comfort of home... some sacrifice in coal mines or on oil rigs or on long commutes to long days in factories. Complaining that dad has to work to provide is a first world problem.
- Fnoord 3y ago
  I don't see his time with this headset as work but as fun/play. I guess we disagree on that.
  - sokoloff 3y ago
    This is how he makes his income, is it not? I really enjoy programming and find it fun/engaging. It’s still work, because it’s how I earn money. Other people work as tour guides or travel writers. Do you see what they do as playing around traveling or as work?
    - Fnoord 3y ago
      I'm not sure he makes his income with writing reviews like this? Sure, you could make your hobby a job. But if they experiment with a device like this to see if it enhances their work it is kinda like the 80/20 rule at Google. It could turn out productive, inspiring. But I wouldn't want to bet on it. It wouldn't be the main task of his job.
      - sokoloff 3y ago
        Even the 20 part of Google work is work, IMO, whether it turns out to be productive/inspiring/useful.
  - wernercd 3y ago
    I work as a computer programmer. I sit behind a desk and I have fun solving problems... while getting paid to use technology. You may not see it as work... but the guy is literally getting paid for it. No offense but it doesn't matter what you see or what you think you see - what matters is what's really happening. And what's really happening is this guy has gotten REALLY lucky: He's got a job where he can have "fun/play" doing something that pays his bills. That doesn't make his "sacrifice" anything less because it's enjoyable (sacrificing time with wife/kid(s)). It makes his sacrifice enjoyable but he still has to make the same sacrifice that parents around the world make on the daily. I guess I'd ask you honestly... do you see professional streamers or gaming streamers as working? Destiny, Vaush, Asmond Gold, pewdiepie, etc? I know streamers that spend 12 hours a day online engaging in content to make money - and a few of them have kid(s). They are having fun and making money while working their asses off to better their lives and, presumably, their families lives. They aren't slaving in a coal mine or sitting with dead looks in their eyes in a cubicle but they are making money and ends meet. Just because they are lucky (and work their asses off) doesn't mean they aren't also sacrificing. But I digress. I'm lucky enough to love what I do as well so I think the fact this guy can provide for his family by playing with toy is fucking awesome.
techdmn 3y ago
I agree with everything you said. It's played for laughs, but it's a misogynistic joke about men having all the power and women having all the responsibility for child rearing. We can do better.
walteweiss 3y ago
I just love how downvoted you are! Really shows the true hn crowd, the kids themselves.
- CatWChainsaw 3y ago
  Kids that probably have an over-representation of Y chromosomes and swollen egos, so it tracks.