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Some of us have to work on our holidays or travel extensively. So being able to bring us the same setup anywhere is a huge win. I think the future of Vision P

Some of us have to work on our holidays or travel extensively. So being able to bring us the same setup anywhere is a huge win. I think the future of Vision Pro will centre around two use cases: (a) content consumption like an iPad and (b) virtual monitors with a keyboard/mouse like a Mac.

FirmwareBurner 3y ago
>So being able to bring us the same setup anywhere is a huge win. So like ... a laptop? Plus maybe an extra portable USB-C display or your iPad as an external monitor? For your statement to be correct, it means that someone would have to be using the APV as their daily driver default setup for work in order to take it with them wherever they go, and not just use it as a secondary travel setup in parrales to their mains etup. Curious how many people will actually daily drive the AVP for 8 hour workday as their default work setup long term, versus the ones who will give up on it as soon as the hype/honeymoon period is over and then only use it sporadically.
- cmcaleer 3y ago
  If you're going for months at a time and you're used to a couple of large monitors/ultrawide, a USB-C display is a grim downgrade and sidecar is really unreliable. Currently the Vision Pro doesn't beat my current solution cost-wise (just buy some monitors there and flip them for cheap before I leave) until like, 15 trips and the quality of it as a solution for doing what I want seems roughly similar so I'm avoiding it for now. If it was $1200 or so it would be a no-brainer for me.
  - FirmwareBurner 3y ago
    >If you're going for months at a time But could you use the AVP for months at a time for work? That's the main question everyone's avoiding to answer. So far, everyone just plays with it for a couple of hours to post on social media "wow that's so cool, it's the future", but so far I haven't seen anyone saying they actually use it for work 8h/day 5 days/week long therm. All those who have AVPs still default to using their computers with monitors for their daily work. So then how can you say AVP is gonna replace your setup for months on end?
    - cmcaleer 3y ago
      Oh it was kind of a non-issue in my head since I've used VR headsets (mainly Quest and Index) for extended iRacing sessions like taking part in 24 hour events where stints go on for hours at a time. AVP seems more comfortable than those and I imagine the view of the outside world helps it not feel so boxed in. I would be surprised if I couldn't. Doubt it's for everyone though.
      - FirmwareBurner 3y ago
        But playing video games is not the same as working. I can play video games for hours without breaks, sometimes even a whole day, but I can't do the same for solving complex work task, like coding and debugging, or shitting through documents and spreadsheets, plus the constant interruptions and context switching of a work day which you don't have in racing videogames. So I'll repeat my question. Will you and most AVP customer be able to actually put in as many hours of daily/weekly/monthly work in their AVPs as they usually do on their computer setup, or is that just a fantasy people tell themselves to justify the thing? Because so far, no AVP users have come forward with such claims.
        Nevermark 3y ago
        I described my experiences in a sibling comment. But regarding the discomfort of long hours, I have been using it comfortably for 7-12 hours a day for six days now. I had to go to the double strap to distribute the weight evenly. You also rethink where you want to be. My desk is still great, but a tilted back chair with a keyboard/pad on my lap is better for longer hours. That is where I am now!
    - cruano 3y ago
      Do you work non-stop for 8h/day? no video calls ? no lunch? You'd probably only use it for focused work, i.e. when you actually need more than one screen.
      - FirmwareBurner 3y ago
  - wilsonnb3 3y ago
    > sidecar is really unreliable. Is this wireless or via USB cable? Also, isn't sidecar the exact same tech that they are using to show your mac monitor on the vision pro anyways?
prmoustache 3y ago
> Some of us have to work on our holidays I think I'll stick to living in juridictions that prevent this to happen. And providing a use case that enable more abuse is not a pro imho.

FirmwareBurner 3y ago

>So being able to bring us the same setup anywhere is a huge win. So like ... a laptop? Plus maybe an extra portable USB-C display or your iPad as an external monitor? For your statement to be correct, it means that someone would have to be using the APV as their daily driver default setup for work in order to take it with them wherever they go, and not just use it as a secondary travel setup in parrales to their mains etup. Curious how many people will actually daily drive the AVP for 8 hour workday as their default work setup long term, versus the ones who will give up on it as soon as the hype/honeymoon period is over and then only use it sporadically.

cmcaleer 3y ago
If you're going for months at a time and you're used to a couple of large monitors/ultrawide, a USB-C display is a grim downgrade and sidecar is really unreliable. Currently the Vision Pro doesn't beat my current solution cost-wise (just buy some monitors there and flip them for cheap before I leave) until like, 15 trips and the quality of it as a solution for doing what I want seems roughly similar so I'm avoiding it for now. If it was $1200 or so it would be a no-brainer for me.
- FirmwareBurner 3y ago
  >If you're going for months at a time But could you use the AVP for months at a time for work? That's the main question everyone's avoiding to answer. So far, everyone just plays with it for a couple of hours to post on social media "wow that's so cool, it's the future", but so far I haven't seen anyone saying they actually use it for work 8h/day 5 days/week long therm. All those who have AVPs still default to using their computers with monitors for their daily work. So then how can you say AVP is gonna replace your setup for months on end?
  - cmcaleer 3y ago
    Oh it was kind of a non-issue in my head since I've used VR headsets (mainly Quest and Index) for extended iRacing sessions like taking part in 24 hour events where stints go on for hours at a time. AVP seems more comfortable than those and I imagine the view of the outside world helps it not feel so boxed in. I would be surprised if I couldn't. Doubt it's for everyone though.
    - FirmwareBurner 3y ago
      But playing video games is not the same as working. I can play video games for hours without breaks, sometimes even a whole day, but I can't do the same for solving complex work task, like coding and debugging, or shitting through documents and spreadsheets, plus the constant interruptions and context switching of a work day which you don't have in racing videogames. So I'll repeat my question. Will you and most AVP customer be able to actually put in as many hours of daily/weekly/monthly work in their AVPs as they usually do on their computer setup, or is that just a fantasy people tell themselves to justify the thing? Because so far, no AVP users have come forward with such claims.
      - Nevermark 3y ago
        I described my experiences in a sibling comment. But regarding the discomfort of long hours, I have been using it comfortably for 7-12 hours a day for six days now. I had to go to the double strap to distribute the weight evenly. You also rethink where you want to be. My desk is still great, but a tilted back chair with a keyboard/pad on my lap is better for longer hours. That is where I am now!
  - cruano 3y ago
    Do you work non-stop for 8h/day? no video calls ? no lunch? You'd probably only use it for focused work, i.e. when you actually need more than one screen.
    - FirmwareBurner 3y ago
- wilsonnb3 3y ago
  > sidecar is really unreliable. Is this wireless or via USB cable? Also, isn't sidecar the exact same tech that they are using to show your mac monitor on the vision pro anyways?

prmoustache 3y ago

> Some of us have to work on our holidays I think I'll stick to living in juridictions that prevent this to happen. And providing a use case that enable more abuse is not a pro imho.