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I mean I think the sales pitch in this case is literally, “Burn an enormous pile of (oil) money, to gain a large but smaller pile of (chip) money”

sofixa 3y ago
> “Burn an enormous pile of (oil) money, to gain a large but smaller pile of (chip) money” But continue having that pile of (chip) money after the oil and gas money runs out (either due to decarbonisation or due literally the resources running out).
consumer451 3y ago
Let's assume it works. So then ultra-religious authoritarians own part of AGI. Sounds great!?
- jacooper 3y ago
  It really doesn't change much.
  - consumer451 3y ago
    Please explain. People are upset about "woke" ChatGPT, because they have the comfort of that first-world problem. Thing is, it can actually get much worse than optimizing for inclusion. Do we really want Sharia authoritarian AGI? Or am I misunderstanding what you are saying with your terse reply?
    - lvh 3y ago
      We're talking about chips: stuff optimized for inference and training. It may have a lot of memory, it may be able to perform a lot of operations, but it would be difficult for it to enforce high-level concepts like "woke ChatGPT".
      - consumer451 3y ago
        Are you telling me that the investors who give sama $trillions don't expect influence on the final product? Isn't this the definition of soft power? [0] When NVIDIA sells GH200s to OpenAI, they expect nothing beyond the transaction. That's very different from getting trillions of dollars in investment from somebody to build chip fabs, etc. [0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Soft_power https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Soft_power
    - jacooper 3y ago
      I meant that the "first world" isn't as fair as you think it is, this should be especially clear now.
jaxson999 3y ago
Oil money has openly said they want to diversify. Hysterical to me people on here in other threads would be knocking Altman for trying to raise huge money from people with huge money who have literally made it a goal to diversify into other areas. What a moron.

sofixa 3y ago

> “Burn an enormous pile of (oil) money, to gain a large but smaller pile of (chip) money” But continue having that pile of (chip) money after the oil and gas money runs out (either due to decarbonisation or due literally the resources running out).

consumer451 3y ago

Let's assume it works. So then ultra-religious authoritarians own part of AGI. Sounds great!?

jacooper 3y ago
It really doesn't change much.
- consumer451 3y ago
  Please explain. People are upset about "woke" ChatGPT, because they have the comfort of that first-world problem. Thing is, it can actually get much worse than optimizing for inclusion. Do we really want Sharia authoritarian AGI? Or am I misunderstanding what you are saying with your terse reply?
  - lvh 3y ago
    We're talking about chips: stuff optimized for inference and training. It may have a lot of memory, it may be able to perform a lot of operations, but it would be difficult for it to enforce high-level concepts like "woke ChatGPT".
    - consumer451 3y ago
      Are you telling me that the investors who give sama $trillions don't expect influence on the final product? Isn't this the definition of soft power? [0] When NVIDIA sells GH200s to OpenAI, they expect nothing beyond the transaction. That's very different from getting trillions of dollars in investment from somebody to build chip fabs, etc. [0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Soft_power https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Soft_power
  - jacooper 3y ago
    I meant that the "first world" isn't as fair as you think it is, this should be especially clear now.

jaxson999 3y ago

Oil money has openly said they want to diversify. Hysterical to me people on here in other threads would be knocking Altman for trying to raise huge money from people with huge money who have literally made it a goal to diversify into other areas. What a moron.