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> the kitchen has a refrigerator smaller than the one my American best friend uses for beer It's possible that you can walk 5 min to get more beer while he has
by nottorp 3y ago
> the kitchen has a refrigerator smaller than the one my American best friend uses for beer
It's possible that you can walk 5 min to get more beer while he has to drive 30 minutes?
- throwway120385 3y agoNothing will drive this point home more than living on an island with a single ferry and no grocery store. You have to stock everything because everything you forget costs you $20 or $40 or more to go pick up.
- bluGill 3y agoMost people in America can drive for 5 minutes for more beer. If you can't legally drive because of how drunk you are, then most stores won't sell you more beer. People might drive 30 minutes for beer, but that is about either price or selection, not availability. Though many cities have weird laws so some places you can't get beer at all in town, and that would push you to the 30 minute drive. But where I live many people have a separate beer fridge despite being 5 minutes from a store where they can get more.
- watwut 3y agoYou cant legally drive when you had one small beer. You can legally buy beers or other alcohol when you already had one beer. If the store is not selling you alcohol due to intoxication, you should stop driving several drinks ago. I can get good selection of beers or other alcohol at reasonable price in the regular store within 5-10 min of walk anywhere in the city assuming it is not middle of the night.
- jessriedel 3y ago> You cant legally drive when you had one small beer Not in the US. The legal limit in almost all states is 0.08.
- watwut 3y agoBut they also sell alcohol to people who around that drunk.
- nottorp 3y agoMissing the point entirely, I see. The point is the europe apartment doesn't need survivalist style storage because it's close to stores. I could have said Mars bars or steaks but the OP post was about a beer fridge so I went along with it.
- bluGill 3y agoOnce again, most in the US are only 5 minutes drive from a store. We still have that extra storage despite being that close.
- sillyfluke 3y agoI was quietly chuckling as I was reading the discussion veer off toward the finer implications the legal limit for driving in the USA has on beer acquistion -- the original frame of reference of the example being so foreign to the commenters as to cause them to miss the intent of the example that was probably immediately obvious to most european residents. A while back someone here made a great point about why Americans love to take vacations to European cities. It triggers a nostalgic wave in them bringing up warm feelings they had the last and possibly only time they lived in a community that they could explore and enjoy simply by walking and biking around. You know, that wonderful time when they lived....on a college campus. The reason why there is little room for storage in the those tiny european apartments is the same reason you didn't have a huge fridge in your dorm room in college. And in many of those places you can walk around with a beer in your hand in public. Yes, that's right -- just like college. Outside college, car culture in the US encourages stocking up habits which in turn encourages the search for more storage space.
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- watwut 3y agoI just find the notion of "being too drunk to be able to buy another beer while not being too drunk to drive".
- malfist 3y agoPlaces will absolutely sell you more beer when you're over the legal driving limit. Most regular drinkers function fairly normally around the legal limit, it is set really low.
- woleium 3y agoits not about driving for beer, its about not drinking warm beer
- bouncing 3y agoKind of. We live near a Lidl (similar to Aldi) and it's fine for a quick trip for the staples. But if we're cooking something like what you'd find in the New York Times or Delish or whatever, we're driving to a big old supermarket just like in the States. We find ourselves still following the American model of driving to fill the car with groceries once a week because we like a lot of variety. If you're content with the national cuisine of Portugal, you could totally always walk to buy groceries though. They're fond of fish and a specific kind of grilled chicken. And in fairness, their chicken is really quite good.
- SllX 3y agoDepends on where you are in America because alcohol regulations can vary wildly and some States have dry counties and/or these things I like to call socialist liquor stores, but where I’m at I can get bourbon hand-delivered to me via DoorDash.
- PaulHoule 3y agoI grew up in NH where the state runs all the liquor stores despite the “live free or die” motto and the libertarian politics. I guess I know what it like to shop in a government store like they used to have in the Soviet Union. Neighboring states hate it because, in a normal state, the store makes a profit and the state taxes it but in NH the state just takes all the money and passes the savings on to the consumer.
- xboxnolifes 3y agoThe idea that the average US city/suburb is a 30 minute drive from everything is a serious strawman built up (seemingly) by the collective internet. There are a lot of issues I personally have with car dependence and road infrastructure in the US, but the average/median drive is reasonable. Like, 5-15 minutes to get to most things.
- nottorp 3y agoWell, no one noticing the walk vs drive part only reinforces the strawman...