> If the tech is good enough it can't be overcome by the rebound effect. Yeah: ifs, whens, maybes and "trust me bro"s On one side you have wishful thinking an

> If the tech is good enough it can't be overcome by the rebound effect. Yeah: ifs, whens, maybes and "trust me bro"s On one side you have wishful thinking and on the other-side you have 200 years of technological progress that brought literally everything besides an energy or pollution reduction The entire history of technological progress is a rebound effect, if it wasn't we wouldn't be talking about it here and now.. so yes you're free to believe that in some hypothetical future the trend will automagically invert itself, but it isn't backed by anything at all. > people won't in fact run ten toasters per person around the clock to make the rebound effect possible. Asia + Africa's population will double by 2050, and they pollute way less than the average westerner by capita. Do you think they won't want their part of the cake ?