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This the opposite of what makes Apple better than competition. If it happens, Apple has to he the same screwed together common stuff.

by szundi 3y ago

AnthonyMouse 3y ago
The screen in an iPhone isn't fundamentally different than the screen in anything else -- it probably is the same screen as in some Android devices. To fit it has to have the right dimensions and the right connector, which third party manufacturers are quite capable of producing. It already has to be replaceable in order to be able to replace it with an Apple one that isn't broken, if you don't want a broken screen to mean your phone goes in the trash.
orangesite 3y ago
Oh god forbid that us special people should be using the same parts as those horrible common Android users!
seec 3y ago
That's what they want you to believe, but in fact besides some obvious exclusivities (like the chips) most of the parts are just the same stuff as any other premium phone. And when it comes to displays, considering Samsung is their largest supplier it is silly to think Samsung cannot sell phones with displays just as good (they just make different choices for calibration and important specs). The majority of the special sauce lies in the overall integration and the software. The reason Apple goes so hard against all this is because they have lost most of their special sauce; their competitors have caught up and even surpassed them on many points both for software and integration. This is why they push a narrative of their stuff being made from unreproducible special sauce when it is clearly a logical impossibility, Apple itself having zero production capability of anything. You have to remember that current Apple is run by an operation man, that special "skill" is basically rationalizing supply chain and pushing suppliers to get whatever he wants at whatever specs they need for whatever price he wants. That's basically the whole problem: this fool has his massive ego engaged in the company and he believes that he creates a lot of value with his "work" because in the ends it makes a lot of profit. And this is why he wants you to believe that the value lies in sourcing said parts. Not in actually making them, not even in specifying them and not even in the labor for replacing them. He would rather use the cheap slavery labor of china, more profit for him, no need to pay a living wage to peoples living in a free country. If Apple were a company taking risks, investing large amounts of capital for manufacturing cutting edge stuff (preferably in the free world where they make most of their money...) they would have a leg to stand on. You could only get parts for Apple devices from themselves and it would make sense because they would be the only ones producing them and that would be it, anything else could be considered "fake" in some way. But it is not the case, they buy parts from 3rd party suppliers that sell them to their specs and conditions; then they get another 3rd party to assemble them and finally they sell them making the vast majority of the profit in the chain. They already got their profit for the integration and design, they shouldn't be allowed to prevent suppliers to sell the parts they make for Apple in the open market at whatever price they want to. And then the consumer is free to choose, go back to Apple and its inflated profits for repairs or find another business who could provide the same service at lower cost while providing same quality for parts. Considering how bad Apple pays its employees the funniest thing is that the other business is more likely to pay a better wage to its worker while providing same or better service quality. At the very least a lot more of the value goes into labor than into Apple profits which in itself can only be better for everyone...

This the opposite of what makes Apple better than competition. If it happens, Apple has to he the same screwed together common stuff.

by szundi 3y ago

This the opposite of what makes Apple better than competition. If it happens, Apple has to he the same screwed together common stuff.

AnthonyMouse 3y ago

The screen in an iPhone isn't fundamentally different than the screen in anything else -- it probably is the same screen as in some Android devices. To fit it has to have the right dimensions and the right connector, which third party manufacturers are quite capable of producing. It already has to be replaceable in order to be able to replace it with an Apple one that isn't broken, if you don't want a broken screen to mean your phone goes in the trash.

orangesite 3y ago

Oh god forbid that us special people should be using the same parts as those horrible common Android users!

seec 3y ago

That's what they want you to believe, but in fact besides some obvious exclusivities (like the chips) most of the parts are just the same stuff as any other premium phone. And when it comes to displays, considering Samsung is their largest supplier it is silly to think Samsung cannot sell phones with displays just as good (they just make different choices for calibration and important specs). The majority of the special sauce lies in the overall integration and the software. The reason Apple goes so hard against all this is because they have lost most of their special sauce; their competitors have caught up and even surpassed them on many points both for software and integration. This is why they push a narrative of their stuff being made from unreproducible special sauce when it is clearly a logical impossibility, Apple itself having zero production capability of anything. You have to remember that current Apple is run by an operation man, that special "skill" is basically rationalizing supply chain and pushing suppliers to get whatever he wants at whatever specs they need for whatever price he wants. That's basically the whole problem: this fool has his massive ego engaged in the company and he believes that he creates a lot of value with his "work" because in the ends it makes a lot of profit. And this is why he wants you to believe that the value lies in sourcing said parts. Not in actually making them, not even in specifying them and not even in the labor for replacing them. He would rather use the cheap slavery labor of china, more profit for him, no need to pay a living wage to peoples living in a free country. If Apple were a company taking risks, investing large amounts of capital for manufacturing cutting edge stuff (preferably in the free world where they make most of their money...) they would have a leg to stand on. You could only get parts for Apple devices from themselves and it would make sense because they would be the only ones producing them and that would be it, anything else could be considered "fake" in some way. But it is not the case, they buy parts from 3rd party suppliers that sell them to their specs and conditions; then they get another 3rd party to assemble them and finally they sell them making the vast majority of the profit in the chain. They already got their profit for the integration and design, they shouldn't be allowed to prevent suppliers to sell the parts they make for Apple in the open market at whatever price they want to. And then the consumer is free to choose, go back to Apple and its inflated profits for repairs or find another business who could provide the same service at lower cost while providing same quality for parts. Considering how bad Apple pays its employees the funniest thing is that the other business is more likely to pay a better wage to its worker while providing same or better service quality. At the very least a lot more of the value goes into labor than into Apple profits which in itself can only be better for everyone...