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40% of Lawyers Are Women. 7% Are Black. America's Workforce in Charts
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- spicybbq 3y agohttps://archive.ph/8OyLa https://archive.ph/8OyLa
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- slashdev 3y agoRant warning: I'm really sick of looking at everything through the lens or race or gender. Can we just go back to not seeing those things? I wasn't racist before, but I am a little now. I think all this focus on race and gender may have the opposite effect that people want.
- chowchowchow 3y agoWow.
- slashdev 3y agoYeah, I know
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- peterpost2 3y agoNow imagine how annoyed non-white people with them systematically having problems with joining certain professions. >I think all this focus on race and gender may have the opposite effect that people want. That's a common critique from reactionaries, never seen much proof from it.
- slashdev 3y ago> Now imagine how annoyed non-white people with them systematically having problems with joining certain professions. But do they? Adjusting for education and experience? I've yet to see proof of that. > That's a common critique from reactionaries, never seen much proof from it. I can attest to it personally. Not proof, but it makes me wonder.
- randomdata 3y ago> Adjusting for education and experience? That's largely the systemic problem with joining certain professions. Those are most often the qualities the market seeks, but education and experience are biased towards the wealthy. You need resources to attain them. For historical reasons, non-white people as a group don't have the same kind of wealth.
- slashdev 3y agoThat's true. Financial inequality is a much bigger problem in the US than discrimination.
- randomdata 3y agoI expect at the end of the day they are one and the same. As in, certain races are treated the way they are because they are poor (generally speaking). It is not like, for example, the white "slack jawed yokels" (rednecks, hicks, white trash, whatever insensitive term you want to call them) are held in high esteem. They too are poor (generally speaking), so they get treated poorly. Let's face it, if the rich list was comprised of mostly black women, we would be bowing down to them and praising their every move. They are marginalized because they, by and large, don't have a good answer to "But what can you do for me?"
- slashdev 3y agoThere's more truth to that than I'd like to believe.
- air7 3y agoThe first line of the Nasa's Artrmis Program reads: With Artemis missions, NASA will land the first woman and first person of color on the Moon --- https://www.nasa.gov/specials/artemis/ https://www.nasa.gov/specials/artemis/
- whatshisface 3y agoI hate the way NASA phrases it, because it makes them sound like cargo.
- randomdata 3y agoWell, there wouldn't be anything special about it if were a woman and person of color landing on the moon themselves. We already know people can land themselves on the moon. Been there, done that. The white men on the ground at the NASA command centre remotely landing precious cargo on the moon is still somewhat novel, though.
- peterpost2 3y agoReminds me of the intro to the movie "Iron sky"
- s3r3nity 3y agoInteresting quote from X (Twitter) the other day: "In Terminator 2, how many people remember that the inventor of Skynet, who was a brilliant engineer and also invented many other important technologies, was a black man? If T2 was made in 2024, this would be the centerpiece of the marketing; in 1991 this was just an innocuous fact."
- lagniappe 3y agoRodney King wasn't until 1992, after that, race and its depiction in media changed
- hotpotamus 3y agoIf you've ever watched the extended edition of T2 (which I can mostly recommend), it actually gives quite a bit more development to Miles Dyson that shows him as a nerdy, focused futurist/engineer, and also a loving family man. It's quite well done though you can see why it would be cut from the theatrical release of a balls-to-the-wall action movie. That said, if you think that the early 90's were some sort of pre race-consciousness society or Miles Dyson just happened to be black as some sort of accident of casting, then you probably just weren't aware of the issue - you weren't "woke" to it, so to speak.
- wakawaka28 3y agoHollywood up until about 10 years ago used to promote social cohesion and actual tolerance, and fair treatment of all. It would fight stereotypes and raise awareness of important issues affecting minorities, without being overly preachy and antagonistic. What we have now is the opposite. We get preachy and exclusionary politics pushed from the top in almost every facet of media and corporate life. In Hollywood they are writing movies and shows with lame plots, often produced by inept diversity hires, and if you don't like their garbage products then you're called a racist or a homophobe. I for one am not deliberately paying money to be insulted by my entertainment at every turn. Big firms like Disney have killed all the golden geese they had by disrespecting fans and producing racist/sexist propaganda to appease misanthropic investors, and they may be forced to accept that people don't want their bullshit.
- I_ 3y agoEvidently this is an opinion, and the argument - which you are, of course, free to disagree with - is that 'not seeing those things' implies a privilege from which you are benefiting, or an ability to ignore the fact there is injustice even if you aren't benefiting. If you have a bit of damage on your front door, is it better for the person observing you as you walk through the door to point it out (hoping you fix it) or to not point it out (hoping you notice it yourself and fix it, or alternatively that whether you notice or not you choose not to fix it). I do not think it is subject to debate that our front doors have damage, so the question is how to remove that damage in the short/long term.
- slashdev 3y agoThere's no question there's injustice in the world, and discrimination is alive and well, but I don't think that framing all issues as being the result of discrimination is helpful. They empircaly are not, in the US, discrimination is a minor issue compared to the much larger issues that people face. It's really missing the forest for the trees. Or to use your door analogy, it's pointing out the damage to the door, while ignoring the missing window right next to it.
- TheCleric 3y agoIf this pushed you to be a little racist, that's a you problem.
- slashdev 3y agoCould be.
- throwaway49849 3y agoWhat do other people genuinely get from this data? Besides "here are more gender and race stats to quibble over and divide you while the political class robs you blind" ?
- freitzkriesler2 3y agoPretty much this. The better data to find would be average salaries and debt loads of lawyers for non t14 schools. I know a paralegal who wanted to become a lawyer, did the research on the reality of the job market, and instead got into project management doing ediscovery and makes as much as a mid level partner at a big law firm.
- crhulls 3y agoIdeally it would be the opposite. Men and women, on average, like different things. I’m hoping we get back to the world of embracing equal opportunity without assuming racism or sexism when distributions aren’t 1:1. This article has some interesting stats which go beyond “look how all rich people are white men.”
- throwaway49849 3y ago>Men and women, on average, like different things. To a huge population, preferential differences directly and fundamentally imply bias. You see the data and say "see, X", they see the same data and say "see, Y."
- lemper 3y agoonly numbers, bro. it's just another visualisation over a report. nothing of important to me, to be honest. not that i am in position to do something about it, though.
- ams92 3y agoIt’s all just a distraction from what should be a class war. It’s easier to keep the masses in line when they’re all squabbling about gender and race.
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