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> Genuinely curious where you’re getting this it's in the text. SpaceX is a provider for Roscosmos. Pretty public knowledge: https://www.cbsnews.com/news/sp

> Genuinely curious where you’re getting this it's in the text. SpaceX is a provider for Roscosmos. Pretty public knowledge: https://www.cbsnews.com/news/spacex-crew-dragon-launch-russian-cosmonaut-nasa-crewmates-space-station-flight/ https://www.cbsnews.com/news/spacex-crew-dragon-launch-russi... It would be crazy for the US state department to NOT use that as some sort of opportunity.

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JumpCrisscross 3y ago
> SpaceX is a provider for Roscosmos..would be crazy for the US state department to NOT use that as some sort of opportunity Sure. That doesn't make Musk a "major diplomatic contact," nor even a pertinent one (let alone "most major"). Also, these are NASA launches. NASA paid for them and handled the seat swap with Roscosmos [1], though there was no doubt coördination between the latter and Hawthorne. [1] https://arstechnica.com/science/2022/07/its-official-a-russian-cosmonaut-will-fly-on-crew-dragon-this-fall/ https://arstechnica.com/science/2022/07/its-official-a-russi...
- throwawaymaths 3y ago
  I'm sorry would it be helpful if I said "likely a major diplomatic contact"? I'm not sure if you're being naive about international politics, obsessively pedantic, or knee jerk argumentative. Point being if musk goes anti-russia or possibly even neutral-but-following-sanctions-too-carefully we absolutely risk losing the rideshare (diplomatic point of contact, beyond just musk) and upticking the risk of nuclear conflict. And I imagine the state dept. Is aware of this.
  - JumpCrisscross 3y ago
    > would it be helpful if I said "likely a major diplomatic contact"? No, this is still wrong. > being naive about international politics, obsessively pedantic, or knee jerk argumentative I'm telling you the reality from D.C. Musk is not a diplomatic asset. To the extent he might be, it's indirectly. His contacts in Russia are simply not unique and deep enough to merit that designation. (And the risks of blowback, given his public profile, too high.) > we absolutely risk losing the rideshare (diplomatic point of contact, beyond just musk) Roscosmos needs NASA more than the other way now. Due to SpaceX. > and upticking the risk of nuclear conflict This is a unique perspective.

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JumpCrisscross 3y ago

> SpaceX is a provider for Roscosmos..would be crazy for the US state department to NOT use that as some sort of opportunity Sure. That doesn't make Musk a "major diplomatic contact," nor even a pertinent one (let alone "most major"). Also, these are NASA launches. NASA paid for them and handled the seat swap with Roscosmos [1], though there was no doubt coördination between the latter and Hawthorne. [1] https://arstechnica.com/science/2022/07/its-official-a-russian-cosmonaut-will-fly-on-crew-dragon-this-fall/ https://arstechnica.com/science/2022/07/its-official-a-russi...

throwawaymaths 3y ago
I'm sorry would it be helpful if I said "likely a major diplomatic contact"? I'm not sure if you're being naive about international politics, obsessively pedantic, or knee jerk argumentative. Point being if musk goes anti-russia or possibly even neutral-but-following-sanctions-too-carefully we absolutely risk losing the rideshare (diplomatic point of contact, beyond just musk) and upticking the risk of nuclear conflict. And I imagine the state dept. Is aware of this.
- JumpCrisscross 3y ago
  > would it be helpful if I said "likely a major diplomatic contact"? No, this is still wrong. > being naive about international politics, obsessively pedantic, or knee jerk argumentative I'm telling you the reality from D.C. Musk is not a diplomatic asset. To the extent he might be, it's indirectly. His contacts in Russia are simply not unique and deep enough to merit that designation. (And the risks of blowback, given his public profile, too high.) > we absolutely risk losing the rideshare (diplomatic point of contact, beyond just musk) Roscosmos needs NASA more than the other way now. Due to SpaceX. > and upticking the risk of nuclear conflict This is a unique perspective.